53.5 to 52 . a really important life decision

[Inbalski]

Hi / I would really appreciate help with understanding this reading.
My husband and i have been toghther for 7 years and we broke up because we had an agreement , that while im away to another country i can be with other men. he than asked me to stop the agreement because he couldn't handle it , and i understood I would be lying to myself and to him because I still wantd to explore my sexuality with other men.
after a long time of being angry with me and not talking we started talking again about getting back toghther and he gave me an ultimatum that we would be able to get back only if for the next 8 months of us being in different countries i will not be with anyone . I asked the I ching wht will be the result of me saying yes to his request and i got 53.5 changes to 52/ than i asked what if ill say no to his offer and got 38.2.6 to 51 .
any input will be great

 

[strawberry_blood]

Hi @Inbalski - first question (sorry to be boring) - what is your impression of the readings? The Yi speaks to the querent, so your own perception is important.

I am seeing personally that might be the case that even if you don't agree now, you may eventually reconnect with him anyway(38.2.6). But agreeing is making things more straightforward for sure (53.5).

Long-distance relationships are tough, it's a good thing you are able to be honest with each other, but aside of the Yi's advice and from my personal perspective - maybe you see him as a friend/ "soul brother" but not a lover?

Marriage is based on the sacred sexual connection, and if you are unable to experience it with him (might that be the case?) - it's best to be friends and family members if you can.

I am on a Twin Flame journey currently and sex with my Twin Flame (as well as practically "reading" one another on the mental/soul level in every aspect) has been the best I have ever had. Now we are in a separation phase, and I have been celibate for a month, it's a big deal to me so I can relate to your question, I'm a very sexually charged creature. I did consider other men but realised I don't want anyone, because all of "them" are "not him", my Twin Flame.
I hope you find your way in this story - let us know how you get on.

 

[Inbalski]

Hi strawberry blood thanks for your response and input. I find it really hard to understand the iching and to be honest I don't know how to make sense of this reading at all...
My husband and I do have a really amazing sexual connection but I don't feel passionatly attracted to him as I do to some other men who seem to always not be available for a more commited relationship. I recently was with a men who i could say is my flame twin . We have insane attraction and connection , but he doesn't want to have a more commited relationship with me . I actually asked if he and I will ever end up together and got 53.5.6 changing to 15 which to me seemed positive... And this is one of the things that really make me indicisive if I should be happy with what I have with my ex or should I be open to be with a men whom i find irresistible...

 

[marybluesky]

Hello Inbalski,

53.5> 52 says it will end well but after a though, long journey.

38.2.6> 51 shows meeting people to have sex with, more of an occasional relationship rather than a long-term one.

53.5.6> 15 shows leaving obstacles behind gradually & finding one self in a normal state again.

P.S: I understand you somehow, as I don't see any point to look after a commited relationship. Most men around me sleep around while they have partners, some try to convince the woman to have an open relationship. It's OK to want a commited relationship, but you don't have to limit yourself to one necessarily. Why should you deprive yourself?
My "beloveds" were with several women while I was naively waiting for them. Then I threw the romantic illusions away & discovered that I was totally able of enjoying casual relationships, something they say you are inable to as a woman (what a none-sense). I am sure the society has insisted on such ideas for years so that men do what they can while they are sure the woman limits hersels and looks after their f... . offspring.

 

[Inbalski]

Hello Inbalski,

53.5> 52 says it will end well but after a though, long journey.

38.2.6> 51 shows meeting people to have sex with, more of an occasional relationship rather than a long-term one.

53.5.6> 15 shows leaving obstacles behind gradually & finding one self in a normal state again.

P.S: I understand you somehow, as I don't see any point to look after a commited relationship. Most men around me sleep around while they have partners, some try to convince the woman to have an open relationship. It's OK to want a commited relationship, but you don't have to limit yourself to one necessarily. Why should you deprive yourself?
My "beloveds" were with several women while I was naively waiting for them. Then I threw the romantic illusions away & discovered that I was totally able of enjoying casual relationships, something they say you are inable to as a woman (what a none-sense). I am sure the society has insisted on such ideas for years so that men do what they can while they are sure the woman limits hersels and looks after their f... . offspring.

Thank you for your response
I absolutely agree with you about being non monogamous... Though I still want some sort of stability. I find it really hard not to go out of balance when there is too much instability and lack of clarity...
So what do you think it means 53.5.6 changing to 15 regarding the guy I am infatuated with? That I will be over him? Or that things will work out between us in a way we are both happy with?

 

[marybluesky]

I can't say for sure. It may mean a stable relationship with him or getting over this guy and returning to normal.

 

[redoleander]

I read 53.5 as saying that in the end nothing can prevent your true natures. Meaning that if you don’t both want the same thing (a stable relationship with sexual partners on the side) it’s inevitable you’ll have to come apart again. If your true natures are compatible, then you might find your way back to each other. (It could also just be giving you a very literal answer, simply painting a picture, saying you’ll be waiting to see your partner and remaining still/turning your back on other connections in the meantime.)

38.2.6 is perhaps about meeting someone else for an encounter but then returning to your partner anyway? 38.6 is about realizing someone isn’t your enemy after all so I think it’s referring to some kind of eventual meeting or conversation with you and your partner. At the end of the day, it’s still Opposing and Shock and that doesn’t sound the smoothest. I read this as you simply saying no to the offer won’t actually permanently sever the connection but it also would be very challenging to fix.

53.5.6 > 15 actually seems positive to me, like something could happen between you. Although it might be saying that things are exactly as they seem; so if you’re infatuated and there’s some reason you can’t be together or he’s not really showing interest, that might be the truth of the situation in the end (15) even if there’s definitely a chance of them being open for something (maybe even something good?)

38.2.6 makes me think some of it could be telling your partner how you feel, having a honest conversation, and seeing what happens. It seems that might be necessary anyway as I don’t know if you’ll be able to just comply with what he wants?

 

[strawberry_blood]

Hi strawberry blood thanks for your response and input. I find it really hard to understand the iching and to be honest I don't know how to make sense of this reading at all...
My husband and I do have a really amazing sexual connection but I don't feel passionatly attracted to him as I do to some other men who seem to always not be available for a more commited relationship. I recently was with a men who i could say is my flame twin . We have insane attraction and connection , but he doesn't want to have a more commited relationship with me . I actually asked if he and I will ever end up together and got 53.5.6 changing to 15 which to me seemed positive... And this is one of the things that really make me indicisive if I should be happy with what I have with my ex or should I be open to be with a men whom i find irresistible...

Hi @Inbalski, just adding another bit of input following our discussion as a group. I think we are in different phases on our Spirit journeys and I have been polygamous in the past as well as being bisexual, but my TF is who he is and I know he is not perfect but I love him with all his faults. It's magical. And now I don't want anyone else at all, because nobody compares to him and to our connection.
Wherever you find yourself on the spectrum of love, commitment and relationships in all their variety - is up to you, guess the Yi is confirming that to you as you converse with it.
I know what I want, but my TF relationship presents different challenges. All of these have been instrumental to my spiritual growth.
But I want the growth AND my lover to be returned to me, simples ))))

 

[dfreed]

I asked ... the result of me saying yes to his request and i got 53.5 changes to 52/
than i asked what if if I say no to his offer and got 38.2.6 to 51 .

Hello Inbalski:

With 53: you have the trigrams (three-line figures) Mountain below Wind. I see mountain as representing you, standing your ground about what you want in this situation. Wind is your husband's desire that you change, but only as he wants you to - to only blown in one direction, that is of his choosing.

The upper trigram wind changes to Mountain, the upper trigram of Hex. 52. It's saying that even if you are flexible and do what your husband wants, eventually (in 8 months?) you're going to be right back where you started - with both of you still in the same positions - and having the same needs and attitudes as you do now. Line 53.5 reflects this metaphorically, when it says: "wife will not conceive for years .... no one can overcome it." So, is this what you want?

With 38: the lower trigram is Lake and the upper is Flame. Line 38.2 is: meeting the master in the lane - it's about finding or encountering some kind of wisdom or truth, perhaps in unexpected places or in unexpected ways (i.e. in the alley instead of along the main road).

Line 38.6 denotes things not being as they seem - or that we're not sure what we're seeing: is it a fox we're hunting or a muddy pig with ghosts? Are we seeing robbers or a wedding ritual? The line talks about going on a journey and that you 'meet the rain' - perhaps going somewhere new and 'exposing' yourself - or, letting yourself feel the situation (like we might rain on our faces) - and this ends in good fortune.

With the changing lines (38.2 and 38.6), both hexagrams become Thunder (Hex. 51): Thunder is about new things, new changes, new ways of seeing and being - which are sometimes shocking, or sometimes joyful, or both. Hex. 51 reads: "shock, shock ... (and) laughter, ha-ha". Again, is this what you want?

Best, D