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autumn said:Gee, Martin, I usually always say, "Does He Love Me?" and "We're not actually dating but" and "I've never thought of cheating on my husband before but" when my REAL intentions are completely platonic.
But I expected that kind of denial from this board, and expect a whole lot more of it, too. Good luck.
autumn said:My "reactions" are to 17.5 (51), 59.1.2. (42), and 48.5 (46) which all have a common theme of growth in understanding a higher form of love.
It is my judgment that many, many people, including parents in relationship to their children, are hindered in their ability to love truly and unconditionally because of their tendency to not appreciate the full "reality" of the inner world of their partner or loved one. This inability to appreciate the "reality" of the inner world of the other person is what allows people to psychologically deceive themselves into believing that there is some higher purpose to an attraction and affair.
The first time most people (and women are just as likely to cheat as men) have an affair they are usually highly convinced that there situation is unique, that the other man or woman is their soulmate, and that there are valid reasons to begin another relationship before dealing with and ending another. These are almost always delusions.
rosada said:Yes martin, you did miss something: Noisy specfically states in post #7 that since reconnecting with his old friend he thinks "I'm ready for divorce now."
autumn said:Hmm, seems I crossed posts with you. Who knows, maybe that was a good thing.
Anyway, I still recommend "show me her purpose" from a higher perspective, and "how to proceed with my wife". I'd interpret 59.1.2 (42) as how to proceed.
My interpretation of that answer is that you need to delve deeply within yourself to unlock what she is touching in your psyche and surrender to it. Having surrended to it, you can communicate with her about the soulmate feeling (61.2) you are feeling, which has the potential to enrich your life. That does not necessarily mean you should run off with her. Look closely at her purpose in your life and how to proceed with your wife. Soulmates come into our lives to teach a spiritual lesson, not necessarily to be our life partners.
lightangel said:Also, I don't think that love for your children is comparable to love for your partner... you might be more attached to your partner than to your kids... but people fall out of love with their partners a LOT more often than they fall out of love with their kids. It's in fact a bit against nature to fall out of love with your kids. But that is just my opinion and would in fact love to hear other opinions about this..
autumn said:marriage has many components, and some aspects of the relationship are not about real, true, love, BUT real, true unconditional love must be one part of it. It must be the bedrock for everything else.
autumn said:What I meant is that she is triggering something internal in him. He should look at that.
autumn said:When I said, "from a higher purpose", it meant (and I thought quite obviously) for him to examine what she was entering his life to teach him. And as I said in the same post, that does not necessarily mean the purpose is for him to leave his wife.
So, how can that possibly be confusing? What I meant is that she is triggering something internal in him. He should look at that.
trojan said:He has come here to this forum for the purpose of 'looking at it' and you have told him not to as he according to you will be using 'higher purpose' as a reason to to 'cheat on his wife'.
autumn said:Thank you for explaining to me what I said, rather than trying to understand what I said. I needed you to tell me what I meant. I feel as if I have been straightened out now and am no longer confused, because you have clarified my meaning for me.
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noisy_carpet said:autumn, you probably see now that the question on how I should proceed with my wife is a little irrelevant here, this is why I didn't need to ask this question. I know the answer already.
noisy_carpet said:I never had any real doubts about my marriage. When I said that what's happening is happening inside of me only, I meant that what happened hit me very deeply and I just cannot think about anything but her. Hopefully, this longing will go away, who knows.
rosada said:One of the great things about having a group of us willing to post our thoughts is we are going to have different perspectives. LightAngel, you may feel it would be inappropriate for you to give Noisy the sort of feedback he got from Autumn, but she was telling him how she sees it from where she's standing and that's what she's supposed to do. I'm feeling tweaked that Martin has implied my interpretation of the hexagrams is unrelated to what noisy has told us about himself. I think everything I've said in responce to his questions can be found in the hexagrams, but what the heck, Martin is just telling us how he sees it. But more important than whether we're supposed to be polite or blunt with our readings, the bigger question is why are we studying the I Ching? What are we doing these readings for? To improve the mores or to help someone cheat on his wife? Sure everyone that thinks noisy's plotting to have an affair is a really dumb idea could just keep quiet, but why should we? Indeed, as Autumn pointed out, everything in the hexagrams can be easily interpreted to mean "This ain't a good idea." Should she remain quiet just because that's probably not what noisy wants to hear? Of course not. If Willowfox or Martin or dobro sees it differently, let them speak up. But as long as we're polite, I feel it's best everyone speak freely.
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