54 > 53 all lines changing

[redoleander]

I received this casting again
54.1.2.3.4.5.6 > 53

Not sure if this should go in another forum since its more of a general question; I have received this a few times and its obviously not the same as 53 UC (or I would have received that) yet working through the lines and applying them is a lot of information and can feel confusing.

I read this as maybe going backward? If 53 leads to 54, and are paired, then the commitment of 54 is going backward or being undone? 54 has been tricky because I never like the situation I’m in when I get it. It’s hard to know if ego is in the way or if the situation is genuinely just bad and won’t ever be what it should/could in theory.

Do you have any general thoughts on six changing lines that have been useful for you, that you’ve read or figured out yourself? Or on these two hexes together?

 

[marybluesky]

I don't have any experience with this combination.
I sense that it means you've gradually progressed as much as possible, or you will soon, and from now on you are not the one to shape the situation.

 

[moss elk]

Do you have any general thoughts on six changing lines that have been useful for you, that you’ve read or figured out yourself

have noticed this:
1-it is the only way to produce that specific 2nd hexagram.
2-the lines diminish in importance almost sometimes to the point of insignifigance:
see this yourself with 1.7 and 2.7
3-it does not mean anything like "it's too stressful, that's why so many lines. "
(there are whole chaptets about 'too stressful' ie hex 28, and single lines that are brutal)

4-can't help with this cast without knowing the question and context.

5-you got this more than once...
which means you should really pause until you figure it out.

 

[redoleander]

Thank you both, I really appreciate the input. This all makes sense. @marybluesky i appreciate your insights and so I’m curious is that because all the lines of 54 are emphasized? I’m not sure to read it as being very 54-ish or not 54 at all because everything about 54 is changing (?). Does that make sense? But I suppose since it isn’t A to B, more that both hexes work together, maybe it really is just all of 54 is important. I was curious if that’s where your sense of things not being within my choice comes from. I can see that applying.

@moss elk Thanks for your thoughts and experience. It’s helpful. The lines diminishing in importance makes sense; so more like looking at the judgement for each hex, or it’s overall message, and that relationship between the two being most important? For example when I read what you wrote, it made me think that maybe it’s a situation changing from having very little influence to becoming very, very gradually influenced. Or perhaps it’s the other way around? Or working with both of those? Regardless, I think focusing less on the lines makes sense. I was curious about the “stressful” part; I wasn’t sure what that references.

I couldn’t remember when I had last received it so I went to look it up; I asked “how can I help hold this together” about a group collaboration that was falling apart but seemed like we could produce something good together if a few people weren’t sort of jockeying to be in charge. Unfortunately I don’t have a definitive answer on what happened with that situation, I can add it once more time has passed, but the collective meets only every few months and it has neither stopped nor developed since then.

This time I asked “What is going to happen with our marriage” because after deciding to divorce my wife is very intent on reconciling, wants to go to therapy, and so forth. The question wasn’t the best because obviously something isn’t going to just “happen” to me. I will have to make choices, decide, and commit or not commit. But I still wonder about the wiser message coming through there, it’s obviously showing me something. And it stood out that I’ve received this more than once.

I’ve only had all changing lines a few other times, 1 > 2, and then I actually don’t remember the other casting off the top of my head.

 

[moss elk]

The lines diminishing in importance makes sense; so more like looking at the judgement for each hex, or it’s overall message,

yes, overall meanings
Not the judgement though!
that only applies in an unchanging hex.

(there are many examples of individual lines that derive their meaning from the marriages of two hexes. Some are very easy to see, like 8.5 (2) Think about this for a moment, then notice you yourself can marry the two hexes and get the meaning of your reading)

Now that I've done the work of drawing the question out of you....
hopefully others will join to interpret.

 

[rosada]

I see 53. as describing first love, first marriage, first widowhood and then doing it again, and with the experiences and the repetitions ultimately making Gradual Progress in mastering the whole life cycle routine. Once having mastered the procreate/die/be-born-again cycle however, the whole routine can feel a bit colorless leading to 54.The Marrying Maiden and the feeling you've been through this all so many times before. You know what's coming next and that eventually it will be your turn at the top but there's no mystery anymore and probably no thrill. Life has become routine, a situation where you're just sort of standing in line on an escalator waiting til you arrive at the your floor.

 

[redoleander]

I see 53. as describing first love, first marriage, first widowhood and then doing it again, and with the experiences and the repetitions ultimately making Gradual Progress in mastering the whole life cycle routine. Once having mastered the procreate/die/be-born-again cycle however, the whole routine can feel a bit colorless leading to 54.The Marrying Maiden and the feeling you've been through this all so many times before. You know what's coming next and that eventually it will be your turn at the top but there's no mystery anymore and probably no thrill. Life has become routine, a situation where you're just sort of standing in line on an escalator waiting til you arrive at the your floor.

That makes sense; it’s helpful to have examples of broader life experiences and feelings associated with these hexes. I remembered that I’ve also received 53 UC for almost the same question, a while ago.

 

[diamant]

When I got six lines changing, for me it had meant something a bit like this:
Situation A is fully true and also fully completed, so situation B will happen.

Past examples:
With 1.1.2.3.4.5.6 > 2 my computer monitor burned.
With 39.1.2.3.4.5.6 > 38 no matter how much I tried on a particular dating website, it was clearly full of con artists and I unsubscribed.

54 is a situation of a multiple-parties partnership and competing interests. Here, all its lines are activated, it is fully in action. Once the 54 situation fully ends, then a 53 situation will be possible or will happen. 53 is the slow and proper building of a one-to-one solid relationship. So it sounds good to me!

 

[marybluesky]

Oh I've read the hexagrams reversely despite having seen the title several times: it's 54>53 not the other way- and far more positive: you've been in a less than ideal position whiteout much power to shape your world (54). Now it ends & the gradual progress toward heights begins!

 

[moss elk]

Now it ends & the gradual progress toward heights begins!

Excepting, of course, that the resulting hex is predominately not the future.

The answer is 54 & 53 simultaneously.
Focus mostly on the 54....

At this moment, I am inclined to believe that the reconciliation would be
The Gradual Progress (53) of a less than ideal/unhappy situation. (54)

 

[redoleander]

@diamant and @marybluesky thank you both so much! You know I read this in a similar way; I have had such disappointing experiences with 54 and have very conflicted feelings about it and I did see the more hopeful side of the casting that maybe that energy has been cycled through and there's another potential, but obviously it's so easy to see what you want to see, at times. I agree, I think it speaks to a similar potential. I appreciate your perspectives.