55.1 -- even after ten days there is no harm?

[equinox]

Hello dear community,

I know there are are already a few threads on this topic.
I tried to interprete this line according to the Richter version, that is recommended on another section of this page and which seems to be quite literal to me. (*seems*, cause I don't know chinese)

http://grichter.sites.truman.edu/files/2012/01/yjnew.pdf

And the divination says: "You meet your lord and counterpart. Even AFTER ten days there will be no harm. Going forth is beneficial."

Is it my poor english or can I also read this as: You can be together and it can/may/will last longer than you thought it would.
( for example because you wrongly thought it already reached the peak (abundance))

It seems to be quite different from other interpretions, like for example Blofeld's or William's.

Thanks for your opinions

 

[moss elk]

I had this line 55.1 before I went to see a tai chi/qi gong teacher who was famous for shooting his chi into you to clear out energetic stagnation that resulted in emotional and physical ailments.

What should have been a one hour session turned into two, then afterward we spent another five hours talking, sharing knowledge of common interests and some surprisingly similar experiences. (he also had in the past been involved with a woman with multiple personalities.)
So, we spent a lot of time together discussing common interests, and experiences, sharing knowledge and looking at each other quizzically.

This extended meeting was not made longer by me receiving 55.1, it just occurred naturally(it was my first time getting it and didn't quite understand it at the time) After, for some reason, I decided not to become his student and moved on.
So I would tend to say it is saying something like,

'You could spend a whole week with this person and it would be good, and then move on.'

 

[equinox]

Do you mean it like: This is a person you really can have 'quality time' with? (without stressing the time factor too much)

Edit: Ah okay, now after you edited your post, it reads a bit different. So, the time factor (in the sense of limited time) seems to play a crucial role in your experience as well.

 

[moss elk]

yes good quality time (get what you need, give what is needed: exchange)
but then move onward.... and away.

 

[equinox]

Thank you a lot.
But how to interprete than "even after ten days..." in the Richter translation. For me this 'after' reads like 'even beyond ten days', which appears to be contradictory to other translations.

 

[equinox]

Ok, maybe I got trapped by the paraphrasing of the literal interpretation. I concentrated on the bold letters.
The original says "EVEN TEN DAYS NO HARM" but still the "even" irritates me. Why even? Ten days aren't long. Was it so unusual to spent ten days with a 'master'?

 

[moss elk]

The original says "EVEN TEN DAYS NO HARM" but still the "even" irritates me. Why even? Ten days aren't long. Was it so unusual to spent ten days with a 'master'?

Seems to me like the EVEN part is for dramatic emphasis.
I mean, to hang out with someone for an hour is one thing, a whole day another, but an entire week? and there would be no harm in it? the meeting must SURELY have some value.

 

[Sixth Relative]

Hi blackmilk

There are different ways to translate that line; "even after 10 days" is not the only possible translation and not the best, in my opinion. Some translations don't use "10 days" at all but "equal character".

In any case, even if you use "10 days", the Yijing (meaning: the Zhou Yi plus the so called "10 wings") clarifies: "More than ten days is harmful." (Wilhelm) or "Were he to exceed that time, he would invite calamity upon himself" (Blofeld) or "Exceeding a decade, calamity indeed" (Ritsema/Karcher)

This commentary in the Yijing points to the same experience from Moss Elk: it's fine for a while but after some time, it ceases to be so; enjoy and then move on.

 

[equinox]

A very late thanks for your answers.
Right now I think it can also mean that you have a short chance meeting with somebody, for example because you bumped into each other on the street.
Also I got it for repeated meetings with a friend whom I like -- but those meetings are rare because our friendship is limited. We have not too much in common these times. It could also well be the case that our friendship will 'fade out' which I don't know yet.