...life can be translucent

Menu

55.2.4>11 How should I approach lifestyle difference?

pallasathena

Supporter
Clarity Supporter
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
30
Reaction score
5
Hi all,

This is the first time I've posted, after being immersed in the I Ching much of this past year. Most of the readings I've done so far, the meanings make pretty clear sense to me. However, this one is not nearly as clear to me.

My question was, "How should I approach the disparity between X's drinking some and that being usually a deal-breaker for me, given that I also really like him otherwise?" So, the background is that this guy from my past showed up. We always had a great connection but were friends due to my being in another relationship. I think so much of who we are lines up compatibly, but then I realized over the course of some phone conversations that he drinks somewhat regularly, whereas anything other than occasional drinking is a deal-breaker for me. I told him that, he asked why, and I explained that I strongly value clarity in both myself and interpersonal relationships, and that I'm wary of alcohol as a coping method. I was very honest about how I felt about it, he tried to honestly give me an estimate of how much/frequently he drank, and then he said he'd have to think about that and changed the topic.

So, my question was about how I should approach this disparity, because so much else between us seems really great, but I know I can't bend much on that issue. All the other readings I've done concerning a possible relationship between us seem really positive.

55 is abundance, so that seems positive. Line 2 seems to speak of truthfulness and sincerity, and maybe not pushing things beyond speaking your truth? It sounded maybe something like speaking sincerely and then waiting for the other person to come around? Not sure. That's what I've already done so far. Line 4 seems to include something about meeting with someone you have affinity with? Both lines talk about being in darkness and not being able to see things clearly. I'm not sure what that's about, beyond not knowing what's going on now or where I should go with this - in addition to the drinking thing, he wants to move slowly since I just ended a long relationship, but that's left me feeling like nothing's happening at all now. The relating hexagram is 11, which feels like the general connection we have otherwise - really positive, warm and strong - as well as being the same hexagram I've gotten in other questions about us.

Can anyone help with further insights? Thanks for any input!
 
Last edited:
S

sooo

Guest
Your own insights sound correct to me, though I diminish the idea of good and bad hexagrams and lines.

Abundance can also imply that this whole matter is a bit much for you right now, being somewhat filled to overflowing. Perhaps your words may influence him, perhaps not; at any rate you made your judgement on the matter known, and that too is part of 55. I personally support your values and limits, though that's hardly relevant I suppose.
 

pocossin

visitor
Joined
Feb 7, 1970
Messages
4,521
Reaction score
186
I understand "Abundance" as an abundance of children and attendant family obligations. Regular drinking is not a good sign that your proposed partner will be able to fulfill future obligations nor is your feeling of neglect.

Hatcher 55.2
. . . .
Going ahead brings suspicion and anxiety
To be true and express this
Is timely

I think it would be better to seek a more harmonious partner.
 
Last edited:

rosada

visitor
Joined
Jun 3, 2006
Messages
9,903
Reaction score
3,201
How should I approach the disparity?

The eclipses and seeing the stars suggest to me that you are to recognize that this issue does indeed block you're being able to move forward but even so you see the "stars", that is, you can see where there could be potential for a relationship if it weren't for the drinking.

The hexagram Peace suggests you are right to assume that because of the drinking the relationship has gone as far as it can go romance-wise and your best approach is to be at peace with that.

Also I think Peace could be affirming your sense that "nothing is happening now" but also saying this is appropriate because after all, what would you want to be happening given that he has not renounced drinking and you have not changed your bottom line?

Rosada
 

precision grace

visitor
Joined
Nov 5, 2008
Messages
1,121
Reaction score
60
Whenever I get 55 with lines changing it's usually because it is some unknown factor that has influence on the situation that I am not even aware of. However, with your situation, it seems like it's more about you not letting your prejudice stand in the way of exploring what's on offer. You don't need to commit straight away, you can still decide later if this isn't right for you, but perhaps you can loosen your 'rules' for a moment until you find out if the impediment is really as big of a problem as you fear.
 

Liselle

Supporter
Clarity Supporter
Joined
Sep 20, 1970
Messages
12,960
Reaction score
2,428
In PG's interpretation, hexagram 11 might mean something like "go with the flow." I got an 11 unchanging reading once where I thought it meant that.
 

pallasathena

Supporter
Clarity Supporter
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
30
Reaction score
5
Well, I'm almost 40 and I'm not interested in having children. I should clarify that he really doesn't drink large amounts by most people's standards, I just almost never drink myself. Thanks for your reply!
 

pallasathena

Supporter
Clarity Supporter
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
30
Reaction score
5
However, with your situation, it seems like it's more about you not letting your prejudice stand in the way of exploring what's on offer. You don't need to commit straight away, you can still decide later if this isn't right for you, but perhaps you can loosen your 'rules' for a moment until you find out if the impediment is really as big of a problem as you fear.

Yes, thanks, that does seem to be how it's going right now. I do actually think there's some possibility he might bend, and I'm sort of waiting to find out and talking casually in the meantime. I wouldn't ordinarily even bother to stick around for that, but we just have such a strong connection otherwise, and he is someone I do know from being friends for a while rather than someone I know nothing about.
 

knotxx

Supporter
Clarity Supporter
Joined
Sep 3, 2006
Messages
1,304
Reaction score
207
@pallasathena I am curious how this worked out for you
 

pallasathena

Supporter
Clarity Supporter
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Messages
30
Reaction score
5
Hi! Does anyone know if there's a way to set up alerts when someone replies to a past thread of yours? I'd be happy to respond but I just saw this one, for example, three years later.

Anyway, to update: the potential connection just didn't go anywhere. He started being scarce in communication and I didn't know why, because he seemed really interested earlier. I eventually forced a conversation asking what was up and he tried to say that he just wanted to give me space since I just got out of another relationship. I told him that the space he was giving me felt confusing to me and like he didn't seem interested anymore. He tried to say that he just moves slowly in new involvements, but it wasn't clear to me whether that was genuine or not. So I just gave up on the connection turning into anything more after about 6-7 months.
 

Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom

Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).

Top