56.1.3.5>25, aye or nay?

[spica]

I was searching for threads that have the exact hexagram but to no avail so I am posting this to get more insights.

I wanted to know if the attempt would be successful to get X to 'join forces', in future, in a project.

56.1 and 56.3 look really negative for me.
First, I am thinking the wanderer (56) refers to me. I understand line 3, regarding controversies that do not concern, but line 1.. trivil things.. does that mean X sees some topics as trivial?

56.5 however, is very positive, and this is the confusing part.
I would like to know if its an aye or nay in this, and 56.5 seems positive, but 25 does not really.

So is it 3 against 1?

 

[chacha1]

Well...

Hi, this is a shot in the dark but hopefully it may be helpful. These hexagrams give me the impression of someone who has encountered defeat, recovered somewhat, and is very protective over the remains of what they were able to salvage. I don't know if that is you or your potential partner. I don't like to offer my opinions on situations that seem to be very important, because I don't want anyone to put too much weight on what is only my opinion. Hexagram 25 speaks about having the utmost integrity in the situation or else things don't go well. Line 5 speaks about although the individual is free from insincerity they have yet fallen ill ( but recovers). The 6th line says that even though that individual is without insincerity , he/she falls into error if action is taken. No advantage in any way. Once again, this is only my opinion because I do not have alot of the interpretive knowledge necessary to see past the obvious response. I operate on vibes. If anything, you may want to get to know, or observe this potential partner for a while longer, and then present your question to the Yi again at a later time if you still desire their partnership.

 

[flor05]

Hi Spica,

First let me just say that I'm new with the Yi, so probably my interpretations are a bit green . However, since I would like people to provide feedback when I ask (BTW, thanks for doing so with me!), I will give it a try.

56.1 Speaks about taking things seriously. I'm not quoating the line because I'm using Spanish tranlations But I would consider this as a warning: don't put effort behind things that don't really matter. If the subject of your partnership - the project itself- is a serious or important matter, you may want to take a look at your approach: May be your attitude could need some "focusing" or correcting. Some of the comments I've read refer to jokes, disrespect or hidden agenda.

56.3 Talks about carelessness, and how that leads to disgrace.Again, the problem of how we interact with people, of how we treat others arise.

56.5 Suggests that after some inconviniences, a great thing will be achieved. Shooting the bird is the "correct" way of making friends in strange lands. As if there is something you can do to be accepted by this person, to be included. Now, there's something to be done to achieve it, people will not just accept a stranger. So this means you must earn this, but if you act accordingly, great success is in store.

Now, I think 25 fits perfectly well in here. It talks about sincerity and truthfulness, and how that attitude leads to success (while being insincere carries misfortune).

In my opinion, 56.1 and 56.3 are telling you that there's something that must be corrected before starting any project or venture: either the plan is not right or your attitude towards it needs revising. Think carefully about you or this possible partner having hidden agenda, about the possibility of presenting this project as something is not. It could also mean that this possible partner may perceive your intentions differently from what you are trying to convey.

You know the situation and will be able to assess whether this makes any sense, but I hope it helps!

 

[spica]

Dear Chacha and Flor, thank you for replying.

I did approach the persons I am interested to join forces with, but they have yet to respond. Flor, thank you for your detailed interpretation. I think you're right regarding that. It does give alot of food for thought.

I got a 36,2,4>34 on why they have not replied, but I guess it means they may not be interested .

 

[chacha1]

I was going through every page I've posted on and was reminded of this. Since the time you posted I read the result that you have received (thus far) from your potential partner, and from what you said has happened, I'm wondering if that potential partner has since come around, or have you found a possibly better partner. Reading the post above mine about how your intentions may not have been perceived correctly I revisited hexagram 25. That line 5 about "one who is free from insincerity" but "falls ill", "use no medicine " and you will have "occasion for joy". This makes me feel like even though you may be sick over the feeling of not being able to partner with your original choice, don't try to do anything to fix it, it's okay, because an even better option will present itself. If you see this post, will you please check back to say whether your original potential partner has gotten back to you( and how they feel about a joint venture), or if you have found someone else who is more in line with what you want to do.