A beautiful reading I guess

[Alemide]

Hi, today was my grandma's 11th death anniversary. I prayed a bit for her and then I started thinking about the fact that she always promised she would send signs from heaven and, except for a very vivid dream that I had once，I have never had a sign from her. Then I decided to do a reading and I got 12.6 to 45, Heaven and earth do not interact: Blocked.
Line 6
'Overturning the block.
Before, blocked. Afterwards, rejoicing.'.
It seems to me that she is saying we cannot communicate now, maybe it is different from what she imagined, but we will gather again, rejoicing. Do you agree with my point of view? Anyone more expert maybe Reads it differently?thanks!

 

[Hans_K]

It seems to me that she is saying we cannot communicate now, maybe it is different from what she imagined, but we will gather again, rejoicing. Do you agree with my point of view?

I partially agree with you .
The line 6 text says "overturning the block." When you overturn the block (H12) you get H11 Peace. Here Heaven and Earth are moving toward each other, which is why it says rejoicing in the text of line 6, because the blockage has been overturned.
What is the blockage in this case?
Based on the trigrams, I would say that you yourself are the blockage. Trigram Heaven with a moving yang line at the 6th position is about wanting to be in control or in charge and not being open to outside influences (H11 also refers to this, because here Earth is the upper trigram and this has as attribute receiving.)
Heaven is also the trigram of the mental and thinking. This could indicate that you are approaching things too intellectually in this case, rather than from one's feelings.
The solution lies in trigram Lake which is about being open to others, interaction but also about the magical, that which goes beyond "the normal." So to see and understand the signs 'from the other sight' you have to open yourself for the 'magical'.

The combination of Lake above Earth gives H45 "Bringing Together". The text of Judgment says "The king approaches his temple." In ancient China, the temple was the place to contact the spirits and ancestors and bring offerings to them. Here you see again that the king goes to the ancestors and not the other way around. The text also shows that you will be successful in this contact if you persevere.

The nuclear hexagram of H12 is H53, Developing Gradually. This shows that contact with your grandmother is established gradually. The more you can emotionally be open to this contact (trigram Lake) the better you can recognize the signs.

As always. take what resonates and leave the rest

Edit: editted some typos

 

[Alemide]

It 100% resonates. The block is Totally me. I was afraid of the connection even if I wanted it and I am gradually letting go. Thank you so much

 

[SuperNatural]

Hello Alemide!

I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your grandmother. The reading you received, with hexagram 12 and a changing line leading to hexagram 45, can be interpreted in the following way:

Hexagram 12 represents Standstill, suggesting a temporary period of stagnation or a lack of progress. This hexagram can indicate a time of reflection or contemplation when external circumstances may require patience and restraint.

Line 6 changing to hexagram 45 (Gathering Together) suggests a shift from a state of standstill to a more optimistic and active phase. This change indicates the potential for coming together with others, forming connections, and finding support and comfort in shared experiences.

In relation to your specific situation, this reading may imply that your grandmother's spirit or presence might not have manifested as overt signs until now. Hexagram 12 could suggest a time of slowing down and focusing inward, perhaps allowing you to connect with her on a deeper level through personal reflection or meditation.

With the changing line leading to hexagram 45, it is possible that the signs you seek from your grandmother might come through opportunities to gather with people who have shared memories or connections with her. This hexagram signifies the power of community and suggests that moments of togetherness can bring a sense of solace and the potential for receiving the signs you desire.

Therefore, the best interpretation of this reading may be that while the signs from your grandmother might not have been evident until now, this period of standstill is shifting towards a phase of gathering and connection, which may provide the opportunity for you to experience the signs you have been longing for. Stay open to these opportunities and be receptive to the connections that may emerge, as they might hold the potential for you to feel your grandmother's presence in a meaningful way.

I hope this helps.

 

[Liselle]

It is very hard to know about these things, of course, even with Yi's help, since when asking about the afterlife we really have no ground to stand on to place the imagery.

But I sort of agree with you about this:

It seems to me that she is saying we cannot communicate now, maybe it is different from what she imagined

12.6 to 45... the line is promising and encouraging, but the hexagrams are very hard work. 12 - separation, blocked, no interaction. 45 - huge effort and investment, sacrificing large animals, maybe everything you have.

There's a Wing of the Yijing called the Little Image, an ancient commentary on the line. I think the one for 12.6 shows how difficult the hexagram combination is:

"Separation ends (and is) then overcome:
(But) how could this be sustained?" (Bradford Hatcher)

Example of my own: I asked Yi about taking my cat to a cats-only veterinary office on the other side of the city. I thought 12.6 was an endorsement. But when I saw the Little Image I changed my mind. Currently we go to an excellent practice about 6 minutes away. Going to one at least 45 minutes away might be a good idea, but it wouldn't be sustainable. We're at the office too often to go that far every time.

And a little story...
Look at the fan yao (explanation here), the "coming-back line," 45.6 -
"Heartfelt lamenting, weeping, snivelling.
Not a mistake."

I'm pretty sure I did hear from a loved one once, when I was exactly that upset. I don't think it was from my own head.

I wonder if it could be compared to sending a telegram in the olden days. You know about telegrams, right? They were written in telegram-ese because they were so costly (45-ish) to send. Like Msg recd instead of a chatty letter or conversation.

So yes, maybe it is harder for your Grandma than she thought, and maybe things are different. Maybe people in heaven lose connection to the earth, and maybe that's what's supposed to happen (I don't know).

But who knows, sometime if you really really need her, maybe the block will be overcome. If a moment like that never happens, that's okay too.

 

[Hans_K]

It is very hard to know about these things, of course, even with Yi's help, since when asking about the afterlife we really have no ground to stand on to place the imagery.

I think that is not quite correct. You don't need to know anything about the afterlife to consult that other world. The world of spirits and ancestors is the origin of working with the Yi. When you read the ancient Chinese texts you'll see that the spirits and ancestors are consulted using the oracle.
You can also see this in the ancient invocation still used today in China when the Yi is consulted.


Source: The Qimeng Jieyao (volume of the Bushi Quanshu)

So I personally think that it is not that this other world cannot make contact with us, but that we (in the West with our rational mindset) are often not open to that contact.

 

[Liselle]

Good points. All I meant was it's often helpful to be able to recognize the imagery, at least some of it, if for no other reason than you might see if you're on the right track or not. But this doesn't mean it's always necessary. Different readings are different.

 

[Liselle]

Oh - and when I consult, I'm not trying to contact the afterlife, spirits, or ancestors. My view (personally - ideas vary) is that it's God speaking through the oracle. God won't find it hard to get through, even if deceased family members might.

(In other words I thought 12 to 45 was God's description of Alemide's grandma's communication difficulties.)

 

[Alemide]

Dear all thank you so much I don't know where to begin, Liselle, I have the same view about God and the oracle, thanks for wording it so nicely. And thanks to all of you for the precious info, there is a lot to study.
I think the reading could be referring to the fact that my spirituality has been totally blocked since I gave birth and I am slowly regaining myself. As always Yi speaks on multiple levels and answers the questions I didn't ask. I am at a crucial point in my life and maybe I just wanted to feel heard and loved by Grams.
You gave me a lot to think about , I am grateful