about 3.4>17

[literunner]

Hi folks
Anyone have experience with 3.4>17?
I read it as ready to proceed with an alliance, but following the signs of the times and moving with the creative process (h17). I also saw something about line 4 as "needing help" to get to the union. Does the other party need help from me or do I? (Thus I'm here)

Lise says of line 4: "Like driving a team of horses proposing marriage. To proceed is auspicious. There will be harvest.
If you want something, then go for it! Put your heart and soul into it. Its success depends on your motivation, dedication, all the powers you yourself put into it."

My query was about what my partner wants from me right now (we took a break for a bit). To move ahead and go for it? And how does 17 fit-- a "following, not leading" stance?
Thank you for the help! :bows:

 

[pocossin]

What does my partner want from me right now?
3.4 > 17

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Hexagram pictures: Carriage of an Official , Wine Vessel

The official is levying troops for the army. Such levying implies separation from loved ones. The Wine Vessel is the symbol of camraderie between the ruler and his companions.

Overall judgment: Separation gives way to friendship. Is your partner considering joining an organization that would require your separation?

Text:

3J
Difficulty at the Beginning works supreme success,
Furthering through perseverance.
Nothing should be undertaken.
It furthers one to appoint helpers.

Do you have mutual friends who would support your relationship?

3I
Clouds and thunder:
The image of Difficulty at the Beginning.
Thus the superior man
Brings order out of confusion.

You could ask for a clarification of issues.

3.4
Horse and wagon part.
Strive for union.
To go brings good fortune.
Everything acts to further.

You are currently parted. Could you and your partner work together on a project?

17J
Following has supreme success.
Perseverance furthers. No blame.

Friendly relations could be continued in spite of the separation.

 

[literunner]

Thank you, Pocossin
Breaking this down as you did, I can see more clearly; part of the reason for the separation is due to my partner having to join with family members to sort some things out. And we each have friends who support our relationship, it's true. And they have helped us much. I'll think on the idea of a project we could join on, what that might mean or be referring to. Meanwhile, yes it seems accurate that my partner wants to continue talking, relating and staying connected, despite the need to tend to family issues right now.

Thank you for this help :bows:

 

[willowfox]

She needs you but isn't going to become dependent just yet.

 

[literunner]

Thanks WF, makes sense :bows:

 

[shmemily]

I just got this reading when I asked about what a certain person's problem is. When I saw the words Difficulty at the Beginning, it struck the association immediately that he had a hard childhood and is dealing with that stuff now. Difficulty at the beginning of life, meaning the basic familial dynamic and the growth that takes place then. So I would interpret as, your partner wants your support through this family stuff that they're dealing with, and you should be selfless in tuning into that. (ie be a good friend, don't complicate things, follow what circumstances demand)

 

[literunner]

I would interpret as, your partner wants your support through this family stuff that they're dealing with, and you should be selfless in tuning into that. (ie be a good friend, don't complicate things, follow what circumstances demand)

Thank you, shmemily, you've hit upon some very spot on points that apply to my situation and I really needed to hear this today--good timing. It's hard not having much contact; I'm not exactly sure how things are going with my partner, better, worse, etc. I'll continue with selflessness and loving support, without adding difficulties. Thank you again. :bows: