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An etymology of Sui.17

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Etymology of the ideogram Sui.17






Three side-by-side ideograms are assembled to illustrate Sui.17. The one on the right itself is made with two symbols: at the bottom it shows the ideogram meat and above it a character which, associated with the symbol for hand and the one for set square means left (left being understood as the hand holding the square, the one helping the right hand). Associated to the symbol for meat this hand holding the square becomes an autonomous ideogram meaning carved-meat.

In the middle is the general symbol used to express movement. It is there to confirm that the action is that of carving the meat.

The ideogram on the left, representing a hill which was used during rituals, is a general symbol of abstraction. It is there to confirm that the rest of the ideogram is to be understood as a metaphor.

The entire assembly forms a character still much in use nowadays and which means: to conform, to adapt oneself in the most supple way to an outside influence, to acquiesce, to follow…

The Taoists have a representation to explain the double standard of Sui.17:

1. it is the flow which creates a structure (as carving),

2. it is the insertion itself penetrating the void created by the flow.

It is more than likely to evoke this idea, a structuring flow, that the editors of the Yi Jing have chosen to insert it in the canonical commentaries, in order to describe wind following wind, wind whose superimposed trigrams confirms this application in the Great Image of Xun.57.

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From the universal perspective this is expansive bonding (Lake in upper, intensity in expression) operating in a context of expansive binding (thunder in lower - enlightenment, enlightening, the 'a-HA', realisation of something)

The trigrams thus read "with/from enlightenment comes intensity in expression" The focus is thus fits in with the focus on finding and following a belief - something/someone that one will be 'intense' about. It is a cooperative focus and 17 share space with 25 where the competitive nature defends the belief in that one stands to assert one's perspective without consideration of, or ignoring, consequences. The young do this and so the link of 25 to 'innocense' etc

The infrastructure of 17 is described by analogy to:

100110
100001
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000111 - 12, neutralise, 'fight' for one's belief (and so a need for one) - IOW the core energy in 12-17 is this issue of finding/defending. The other pair is in 25/45 and so asserting/celebrating that belief.

In Confuscius comments re 'conform' we also cover seeming inconformity in the actions of 25 and so the sense of disentanglment to say one piece.
 

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Lol :D, what on earth are you talking about? Hexagram 35627?
 

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confucius said:
The entire assembly forms a character still much in use nowadays and which means: to conform, to adapt oneself in the most supple way to an outside influence, to acquiesce, to follow…

In Taiji Quan push hands, sui means to follow and comply, go with the flow don't resist, yet do not loose the contact with the opponent as if one looses the contact he is not following.

Togan
 

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