Art success? 64.3.6-32

[Mylife]

My husband is currently unemployed and while he is job hunting he is also dedicating some time to his hobby which is wildlife painting. He wants to sell the paints and turn this hobby into a revenue. So I asked for him: “will he succeed making a business out of the painting?” And the answer was 64.3,6-32

64- not yet fulfilled = which makes me understand that the answer is no.
64.3- he should be very careful and only then he will cross the river
64.6- this is the end of of the unfulfilled situation; so sooner or later it will be fulfilled. However he should stay steady and in control of the situation.

32- long lasting relationship = not sure what this means with regards to my question.

How other ways of interpreting this answer do you see? Does it seems he will succeed or not?

Thanks for your help
Xxx

 

[rosada]

64. Before Completion describes a time for celebrating endings and making plans for new beginnings. Receiving this hexagram as a comment on your husband’s interest in making a career of being an artist suggests to me that this idea needs more fleshing out. 64.6 does read as if he will meet with some success but I can also see it as a warning not to expect more than is reasonable. 32. Duration could mean he is successful enough that it’s worth his while to stick with it - as in enjoying his hobby and maybe selling a print now and then - but it could also mean the 64. Day dreaming, planning, keeps on - 32. Endures - but it doesn’t amount to more than that. In summery I see this hexagrams as encouraging him to keep working on this idea but to be realistic.

 

[Hans_K]

Hi Mylife,
H64 is the hexagram of new beginnings. Whereas in H63 everything is balanced, everything has found its proper place here, in H64 everything starts again. However, this is not starting from scratch. In H64, all the elements for change are present, only the right order has yet to be found.
You can see this in the texts of the Judgement and the Image.
In the text of Judgement, the river is almost crossed and in the text of the Image, the advice is to discern everything carefully so that everything is in place.

Trigram Water turns into Wind due to the moving yin line at the 3rd position. This is about not making a choice as doubt and uncertainties come into play. These doubts and uncertainties here are due to a lack of decisiveness rather than actual obstacles.
Wind advises doing self-examination, being firm and not giving up.
Wind is also about planning for the long term and executing this planning accurately.
The text of this 3rd line says:

Before completion, attack brings misfortune.
It is beneficial to cross the great river.

In other words, just starting something (attack) brings misfortune. Good preparation, both internally and externally, is of utmost importance.

Trigram Fire turns into Thunder through the moving line at the 6th position.
To make a new beginning, to start something new (Thunder), it is necessary to let go of all attachments to the current situation (Fire).
The 6th line text warns against a reckless attitude. Thinking that everything will stay the same (He drinks wine and celebrates) causes you to go head over heels and lose everything.

H64.3.6 also has it in it that head and heart are not in alignment in this situation/at the moment. The trigrams Water (feeling) and Fire (mind) move apart, Water down and Fire up.
The nuclear hexagram of H63 is H64: the hexagram of balance. Which could indicate that here is the desire to keep things as they are, to preserve the status quo.

As I see it, the question "will he succeed making a business out of the painting? "is answered with a yes, provided there is an heartfelt desire and drive to do so and he is willing to give things up for it.
I guess the question here is: how much am I willing to give up for it?

This would be my interpretation. As always, take what ressonates and leave the rest .

 

[Mylife]

hi @rosada and @Hans_K
Thank you very much for your answer.

@Hans_K to answer your question

how much am I willing to give up for it?

he will need to give up on looking for work but focusing only on painting. Which means I will be the only one providing and bringing an income. Which is not feasible on a long run.
He is gambling with painting vs working. And I don’t know if to support him to carry on with painting and give up on working or shall I press on working (which I m more inclined to do).

The fact that @rosada suggests

In summery I see this hexagrams as encouraging him to keep working on this idea but to be realistic.

makes me think that probably painting will generate some income but will not provide a stable and enough income to provide for us. Hence being realistic and keep going to work is best.

That’s what I am inclined to think.

Hence the way I interpreted 64.3.6- Was as no success in the way he intends (to provide a stable income).

 

[Hans_K]

He is gambling with painting vs working. And I don’t know if to support him to carry on with painting and give up on working or shall I press on working (which I m more inclined to do).

Given the answer, I would choose to emphasise on working. The answer shows that daydreaming about being a "full-time" painter and actually being one are two different things. For the latter, you have to put your heart and soul behind it and there are hints in the answer that this is not quite the case.

 

[Mylife]

Given the answer, I would choose to emphasise on working. The answer shows that daydreaming about being a "full-time" painter and actually being one are two different things. For the latter, you have to put your heart and soul behind it and there are hints in the answer that this is not quite the case.

I understand. Thank you for clarifying
I appreciate your help.

 

[Mylife]

Can I ask for your view on one more question if possible? @rosada and @Hans_K

I asked the oracle if it sees my husband finding/ starting a new job in 2023? And the answer was 1.3-10

My interpretation is:

1- initiating, sprouting, growing, blooming and bearing fruits // all actions should be in accord with the proper time and circumstances. // the perfect time and position// represents the month of May

It looks very positive but the month of May I don’t understand… May 2024? So is it saying that something starts in 2023 or May 2024?

1.3- during the day initiating, initiating, initiating. At night keeping alert.

Looks like during the day he prepares and does his best. At night keeping alert; not sure what it means.

10- fulfilment // walking forward with firm steps, advancing to fulfilment // a wise man fulfills his duty as cautiously as he would treat a tiger tail; then good fortune can be expected// one carry out one’s duty in difficult situation// act carefully and be cautious// this is a thought situation and one feels uncomfortable//

Looks like something is moving and initiating something; he moves towards fulfilment (to get a new job). Even if 10 mentions fulfilment it also mentions difficult situation and uncomfortableness. So I am a bit confused how to understand it.

How would you interpret the answer? Will he start a new job in the next months of 2023?

Xxx

 

[Hans_K]

Hi Mylife,
Your question is about a time signature and trigram Heaven is the trigram that deals with time and proper timing. So, among other things, the answer H1 is all about time.

It looks very positive but the month of May I don’t understand… May 2024

In the Chinese lunar calendar, H1 belongs to the month of May, whether that applies in this case?

Trigram Heaven turns into Lake by the moving line at the 3rd position. This is about wanting too much control over the situation from a rational point of view. While it is good to keep an objective view, it is important to keep looking at the big picture: who or what benefits from the decisions you have to make now? Take a step back and look at the situation again, this time also giving space to what you feel rather than what you think.
Trigram Lake advises being your own source of inspiration, going off the beaten track. Be open to intuition. So the combination with Heaven shows the importance of finding the right moment to act, based on a gut feeling.
Some of this I think you can see in the text of line 3.

The trigrams Lake and Heaven are associated with autumn (note that individual trigrams are seen differently than a hexagram as a whole). So the change in the lower trigram from Heaven to Lake takes place within the same season.
Again, you can see the aspect of timing here. Autumn is the time of contemplation, looking back, considering the outcome, making a decision and prepare for action based on the ponderings.

H10 as a related hexagram is both about daring to take a risk and being cautious, but the Judgement text shows that taking this risk is not wrong, the tiger does not bite. There is success.

Does this now mean your husband will find a job in 2023?
As I see it, the advice seems to be to use this period to think about how to proceed. E.g. what kind of job will I look for, etc.
Whether finding that job will be in May 2024 (H1) or perhaps even July 2024 (H10) I don't know.
Based on the trigrams, I would rather say November - December 2023, but don't pin me down on that.
I think the most important thing is whether he/you dare to take the risk of thinking about the situation carefully before taking action.

This would be my interpretation. As always, take what resonates and leave the rest

 

[Mylife]

You are amazing @Hans_K

Thank you for sharing tye analysis and your interpretation of the hexs. And thanks for connecting the hexs to my Q.
That is very helpful.

Whether finding that job will be in May 2024 (H1) or perhaps even July 2024 (H10) I don't know.

In the past, when I had questions about time or anything else as well, the months related to hex were most of time incorrect. But it could be my interpretation of the hex or the month we’re wrong… I don’t know.
Do you have experience with the months of the hex when you ask a Q about time?

Based on the trigrams, I would rather say November - December 2023, but don't pin me down on that.

This was my gut feeling when I looked at the answer as a whole. I got the feeling that he might find a job in 2023.
Thanks for sharing your view

 

[rosada]

First, going back to your original question, it occurs to me that 32 Duration could be a suggestion that he give this idea a time limit like calculating what he would need to earn to make painting a reliable source of income and how long he thought it would take to reach that goal. Like saying “I’m going to give this artist idea a certain amount of time to take hold. If it hasn’t proved viable in - say - 6 months then I will get a regular job. “
Now about 1.3 and when he might get a job, I’m seeing this line as saying in order to get suitable employment he should do everything he can think of to find work. This might mean a series of jobs or sending out many applications or even doing everything he can to make his artist dreams come true.
I see hex 10 as advising one should align with some sort of established routine. Think of a tiger cub following the other cubs and being careful not to step on mama tiger‘s tail or in other words being careful not to offend the powers that be. Could mean connecting with an employment agency or an artists co-op.

 

[Mylife]

Now about 1.3 and when he might get a job, I’m seeing this line as saying in order to get suitable employment he should do everything he can think of to find work. This might mean a series of jobs or sending out many applications or even doing everything he can to make his artist dreams come true.

Spot on he just decided to build a routine and to apply and contact many companies and recruiters!

And as overall answer what’s your view with regards if he will succeed to get the job in 2023?

 

[Hans_K]

Do you have experience with the months of the hex when you ask a Q about time?

No for time-related questions, I use the Chinese solar calendar and the trigrams of a hexagram. I do create a hexagram but do not use the hexagram as a whole but the trigrams and the lines it is made up of.

 

[Mylife]

No for time-related questions, I use the Chinese solar calendar and the trigrams of a hexagram. I do create a hexagram but do not use the hexagram as a whole but the trigrams and the lines it is made up of.

Too complicated for me. I don’t know how to do that. But I rely on your answer above.
Let’s see what will happen. I will let you know how it goes.

 

[rosada]

I see 1.3 - 10 not as saying yes or no about getting a job but rather as advice for what to do to get a job. Thus if he is willing to follow the usual protocol - send out resumes, go to interviews - I see this as saying he should be successful.

 

[Mylife]

I see 1.3 - 10 not as saying yes or no about getting a job but rather as advice for what to do to get a job. Thus if he is willing to follow the usual protocol - send out resumes, go to interviews - I see this as saying he should be successful.

Thank you for sharing @rosada
He is starting to dedicate more attention to the job hunting as we speak. And he has in a mind a plan how to do and what to do. So I assume that if he follows it he will be successful. And if the hex says the same thing, this give me more hope.
Finger crossed things will start to move in the next few months.

 

[Mylife]

Based on the trigrams, I would rather say November - December 2023, but don't pin me down on that.

Hi @Hans__ I promised that I would get back to you and let you know if your interpretation was correct.

My husband interviewed with a company by end of Nov and Dec and he signed the employment contract before Christmas.

I would say that you were very helpful and correct.

Thanks for your support

 

[Hans__]

Hi @Hans__ I promised that I would get back to you and let you know if your interpretation was correct.

My husband interviewed with a company by end of Nov and Dec and he signed the employment contract before Christmas.

I would say that you were very helpful and correct.

Thanks for your support

Thank you MyLife for the update. What a great way to end 2023 and fantastic way to start 2024.I hope for both of you that 2024 will be a great year.