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autumn said:But, if Hilary wanted to have ethical guidelines attached to her forum, I would suggest something along the lines of, "First, Do No Harm", and then from that principle, ideas to support empowerment rather thean dependency, clear communication of methods, and respectful speech.
rosada said:So while I don't think it's ever gonna do any good or be necessary even to argue with those we disagree with - time will reveal the truth anyway - it does seem necessary to support or speak up for anyone you feel is getting unfairly attacked.
trojan said:Sorry Toganm i have not a clue what you are getting at ?
What are you getting at in your own words ?
autumn said:I'm ignorant of a lot of these Taoist texts. I've never read Dao De Jing, but is that saying, through peaceful co-existence, two groups that initially opposed one another merge into a new group? Like entropy? Does that first line mean do as little as possible to govern? Let things fit in their own natural way?
autumn said:I'm ignorant of a lot of these Taoist texts. I've never read Dao De Jing,
trojan said:Er yes thankyou Toganm, but it doesn't address the issue of the need or not for guidelines ? I mean yes ideally everyone would be like this chef with the fishes, but fact is we're not. We are trying to address not how things should be ideally but how to handle them when they are not - or at least not in our own perception.
toganm said:One of the uses of Yi Jing is to cultivate self. It is up to every individual to follow it or not, as Yi Jing has already gave the answer with the judgment of Hex. 4 Meng
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There is the Taoist cultivation using the Yi-Jingtrojan said:Undoubtedly it is true Toganm that one of primary uses of the Yi Jing is to cultivate the self. But one doesn't cultivate the self in isolation. One has to cultivate it in the rough and tumble of everyday interaction unless one lives in an ivory tower.
True and one needs help in understanding the interpretation hence the need of a teacher/guideAnd what constitutes 'following it' is largely a matter of interpretation as we know.
hilary said:(Autumn, did you say that in this other forum the moderator has people change their interpretations to agree with hers? Sounds very odd.)
hilary said:Can someone else read it off the page and deliver it? Does this depend on the nature of the message, and does that depend on the nature of the method?
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