breakup now what? Hex 24

[goddessliss]

Hello,

I have finally moved on a lot from the heartbreak of the end of my marriage and the wish that my exhusband would break up with the woman he took up with and What happens? he does break up with her and he is now living about half hour drive away from me.
My life is full and I am happy but I am wondering if he will attempt any sort of contact towards me, with this in mind I asked
how will exhusband act towards me over the next 2 weeks - Hex 24 unchanging

Is the answer that obvious, that he will be looking to return to me??

Please bear in mind that I have not seen or spoken to this man directly for over two years. We have had legal issues and such between us but I have always sorted it so others have advocated for me on my behalf as I could not bear to deal with him directly emotionally or mentally.

thks and blessings
Liss xx

 

[oponopono]

how will exhusband act towards me over the next 2 weeks - Hex 24 unchanging

Is the answer that obvious, that he will be looking to return to me??

I wish other people jump in and explain me how wrong I am, but 24 has been one of the hexagrams that lead me more often into wishful thinking. Looking back to all the readings I got it, it never came to imply a get together again, but always me returning to my own center and moving on to a new cycle of my life - by myself.

It would be interesting to see other forms of the 24s Return manifesting, I am just sharing my personal experience with it.

Best of luck!
:bows:

 

[Trojina]

Hello,

I have finally moved on a lot from the heartbreak of the end of my marriage and the wish that my exhusband would break up with the woman he took up with and What happens? he does break up with her and he is now living about half hour drive away from me.
My life is full and I am happy but I am wondering if he will attempt any sort of contact towards me, with this in mind I asked
how will exhusband act towards me over the next 2 weeks - Hex 24 unchanging

Is the answer that obvious, that he will be looking to return to me??

Please bear in mind that I have not seen or spoken to this man directly for over two years. We have had legal issues and such between us but I have always sorted it so others have advocated for me on my behalf as I could not bear to deal with him directly emotionally or mentally.

thks and blessings
Liss xx

No. Its more obvious that you will return to yourself. I think your answer means let that thought go, return to yourself. 24 most often doesn't refer to anything outside of ourselves...infact its often a kind of retreat .


You need to feel safe as you are within yourself. I think the answer shows you are safe within yourself and if he contacts you, you are sufficiently grounded emotionally that it can't push you off balance very much anyway

 

[Trojina]

I wish other people jump in and explain me how wrong I am, but 24 has been one of the hexagrams that lead me more often into wishful thinking. Looking back to all the readings I got it, it never came to imply a get together again, but always me returning to my own center and moving on to a new cycle of my life - by myself.

It would be interesting to see other forms of the 24s Return manifesting, I am just sharing my personal experience with it.

Best of luck!
:bows:

absolutely ! you are right in the underlined. its a mistake to hang on to the title of the hexagram.

Its a time to 'reset to zero'. I guess it might imply a time of renewal of a relationship ones in as in a bad patch may be over or something...but in practise it is generally a time of inner renewal...which generally follows the darkest night so often this answer is a sign of hope, but one may be still at a low ebb. Its turnaround time but is gradual like the dawn coming etc

 

[goddessliss]

yoana thks for your interest and I hope you got some insight too!

I think the answer shows you are safe within yourself and if he contacts you, you are sufficiently grounded emotionally that it can't push you off balance very much anyway

trojan - thankyou, I think I am too and I had a feeling this is what it meant but was just making sure. I think I am just in the midst of processing this unexpected change of events. xx

 

[bamboo]

all of the above comments are quite valid. In my experience, 24 has meant those different scenarios as well. It can be an ambiguous response and dependent on where you are- obviously, this is true for many hexagrams too - but seems esp true for this

for me, it once indicated the fresh stirrings of something I had not felt for a long time, like the breath of spring and new energy. in that case, a turning point, in a posiitive direction.

sometimes it has meant less welcome omen, such as: uh-oh, here I go again, about to repeat a familiar cycle, another round in the boxing ring. On a lighter note, it could sometimes be like:
"here I go again, I'm hearing trumpets blow again, all aglow again, taking a chance on love, about to take that ride again, starry-eyed again..."

I am not so sure I have ever noted it myself as a return to my self, and only about myself, but just a reflection of how all life energy moves in cycles, sort of like spirals, hopefully at a different level, with newer opportunities....but can just as well be a re-cycling of something not fully complete...line 3 is about that I think, where you begin again to experience something very similar to the past maybe because you are still needing it.

In your case, unchanging 24 could just mean what you describe above. You finish your mourning, you've moved on, you dont want any more contact, and yet he suddenly pops up close by...this almost necessarily by default awakens the old energies/feelings, all of them , not just good, not just bad, but it seems to put it all in flux again.

I think it is a hopeful response from Yi, because without moving lines, it is sort of just stating a fact - he's back - and you get to decide what your stance will be.

 

[goddessliss]

'I think it is a hopeful response from Yi, because without moving lines, it is sort of just stating a fact - he's back - and you get to decide what your stance will be'

Thankyou bamboo - this is also what if feels like to me. A bit like, I havereturned to self in the time since we broke up, and now, if I allow contact it will be when I am ready and with the personal strength I have gained in myself it will not upset my equilibrium too much like trojan suggested.

have fun xx

 

[Sunfit]

I wish other people jump in and explain me how wrong I am, but 24 has been one of the hexagrams that lead me more often into wishful thinking. Looking back to all the readings I got it, it never came to imply a get together again, but always me returning to my own center and moving on to a new cycle of my life - by myself.

It would be interesting to see other forms of the 24s Return manifesting, I am just sharing my personal experience with it.
:bows:

Hi Yoana.

From reading the many posts here over the last few years I clearly see that I am the odd man out on "hex 24"

Hex 24 from all my personal experiences in the last few years has "always" manifested a literal return of someone in my life! (mind you if you seach the forums here for hex 24 you will see others experiences of a literal return of someone as well, including my own)
Not once has it ever represented a return to myself or some kind of wishful thinking. (for "me")

There ARE times when hex 24 will manifest as a literal return of someone from your past.
It's happened to me three times and it has happened to others as well.
Sometimes it is literal.

Just had to throw in my two cents here from my own factual experiences with Hex 24 since you asked.

All the best with your situation however it turns out!

Jamara

 

[chingching]

the oracle does say "friends/partners come" but is he either of these? I get the sense that this is that moment (turning point) when the person who has been the focus of negative events and emotions for you, causing you to react, change, go through a dark time is now just sitting there, unentangled (if you want that) and almost benign, he is separate from the woman who perhaps you reacted to with a bit of jealousy, he has been ordered to make payments
(i'm hoping I'm remebering this right) so there is no power in his presence any more. That is a real mark of returning to your path, when the subject of your darkest days and emotions no longer affects you. He can be right there in your neighbourhood, but that doesnt stop your gradual return, his presence isnt a sign of 'here we go again' but a marker of how far you've come and a marker of the point in time when you really walk your own path.

I also experience this hex as gradual, and the image is the light returning after winter, after the darkest part of the year...and that it is in Australia right now, its so cold its unnatural I've never had to wear so many layers.

But just focussing on the image, the feeling of 24 is the light returning after winter, it happens almost without being noticed until a really hot day, and already its summer, you take your clothes off and go for a swim.

and if looking for a literal response to your question its seems to be pointing to not acting

Itinerant merchants did not travel,
The prince did not tour the regions.

 

[Sunfit]

I also experience this hex as gradual. Chingching

Yes it has always been gradual for me too, a process. Nothing that happens right away in a few days.

 

[goddessliss]

Thks Sunfit and chingching - I had a funny feeling it might mean so many different things as it really is one of those Hexagrams that covers a lot of areas in life.
I don't know if jealousy would be the right word to use, after all I was married to him for 18 years - devastated that he was interested enough in another to leave his family behind.
She loved dramas to the maximum and I believe she was always in court fighting someone about something including the ones between him and me and I think that once there was nothing she could fight with me about,(legally not literally), she lost interest in having a relationship with him - that's how it seems to me anyway. In their time together she even flew back to America to attend a court case to try and apparently recoup money from someone who had ripped her off for wages.
I live in a fairly small community and heard many stories about her, the outcome of one of them being 'If I ever see her again I will K... her', my sons confirmed the awfulness of her. She is now going back to America to live after living in Australia for about 3 years and now speaking negatively of Australia and he does not wish to go with her.

The gradual return sounds good to me and I have thought, if I do have contact with him again, it would not be straight after his relationship breakup but some months down the track when he has settled into a new life for himself. He may pick up with another woman, who knows but right now I am focusing on my life and where I am headed.

As always I appreciate everyones interpretations, it always, always helps me to continue my process in the things that happen in my life.

Blessings,
Melissa xx

 

[goddessliss]

Oh dear - my exhusband and his partner have come back together.

So I have now asked - what can they expect from their reconciliation Hex 41.4.6>54

Looks like their going to sort out their differences and be fine. xx

 

[goddessliss]

Because of her 'return' to him it has actually made me 'return' to myself even more.

When I first heard of their breakup I thought 'oh no, now he will start trying to get back in my life' and it put me in a bit of turmoil about how I actually would feel about that and my mind went into overdrive.
But then when they got back together it put a stop to all those thoughts and it made me realise just how glad I was that they were back together. Then I don't have to deal with him at all and It also made me realise just how much I don't want to be back with him - although I wanted that for a long time after we broke up.

so I think this reading definitely means a return to self. xx

 

[Trojina]

Because of her 'return' to him it has actually made me 'return' to myself even more.

When I first heard of their breakup I thought 'oh no, now he will start trying to get back in my life' and it put me in a bit of turmoil about how I actually would feel about that and my mind went into overdrive.But then when they got back together it put a stop to all those thoughts and it made me realise just how glad I was that they were back together. Then I don't have to deal with him at all and It also made me realise just how much I don't want to be back with him - although I wanted that for a long time after we broke up.

so I think this reading definitely means a return to self. xx

Yes thats how I understood your question...then I got confused that others were seeming to think you actually wanted him back....and then I wasn't sure if you did or didn't.... probably you felt a bit of both at the time...

I think what you've been through is really tough actually. Him going off with someone after 18 years of marriage is a huge upheaval.., especially since he hasn't remained in 'friendly' contact with you...but I can see after 18 years there will be undeniable residual feelings for him and it would be very difficult if he came back and asked to return to you because part of you may want it very much and find it irresistable but another part of you has changed and can't go back to how it was before...so naturally you would be in a turmoil over how to handle it. I know I would be too

I think its only natural your mind will dwell occasionally on that scenario of him returning..theres always that possibility....but then you return to your own path as you have here...sounds like a great relief...in a way its good it happened because its made you more aware of what you want and don't want. As you say her return to him let you return to you...phew...


If he ever did want to come back and if you ever did agree to take him back i think he'd find you quite a changed person....more centred within yourself

 

[goddessliss]

Trojan your words are such a help to me because sometimes I wonder why I would even consider the thought of getting back with him but what you have said about the residual feelings connected to our marriage helps me understand and realise it is a normal thought process.
Their relationship has been very volatile and they have had moments of talking of breaking up a number of times and then actually doing it last week, and he did try to call me late one night about 12 months ago but I did not pick up the phone, So I'm guessing although in my heart he was the love of my life, my head keeps me from being tempted into going back because I remember how much of my 'sense of self' I lost in my relationship with him.
I do have moments when I get sad at the thought of not meeting another 'love of my life'.
I love my independence now on so many levels and financially that is slowly getting better too but it would be nice to share true love again.
have a lovely sleep with happy dreams Liss x

 

[Trojina]

Thanks I'd really like a nice sleep as I am having rather dark and disturbing dreams




I think its impossible to rip someone out of your heart after 18 years and it would injure you to try because if you try to annihilate them in your heart you also destroy those bits of your heart. I think its quite tricky trying to get over someone whilst not destroying big chunks of your heart with it so I think it can be even quite healing to allow thoughts of them and allow some thoughts of reconciliation....i think its all part of your psyche trying to heal itself and a natural process as you say

The thing is however bad it is with him now at some time you shared something of value....and thats yours to keep you don't have to throw that away as well, you can integrate it within you

 

[Trojina]

Now i shall go and read about this truckie...also part of the healing process

 

[goddessliss]

Argh! trojan don't have dark and disturbing dreams - how to stop that happening I don't know....

Thks for your words helping me gain even more perspective - oh the truckie....what next in my life! will I ever stop being on this crazy wheel

 

[mariah kaze]

Hi Yoana.

From reading the many posts here over the last few years I clearly see that I am the odd man out on "hex 24"

Hex 24 from all my personal experiences in the last few years has "always" manifested a literal return of someone in my life! (mind you if you seach the forums here for hex 24 you will see others experiences of a literal return of someone as well, including my own)
Not once has it ever represented a return to myself or some kind of wishful thinking. (for "me")

There ARE times when hex 24 will manifest as a literal return of someone from your past.
It's happened to me three times and it has happened to others as well.
Sometimes it is literal.

Just had to throw in my two cents here from my own factual experiences with Hex 24 since you asked.

All the best with your situation however it turns out!

Jamara

FWIW, this too has been my experience. I am someone who tends to take things literally - the shortest distance between two points is a straight line kind of thinker.

Return - free course & progress - it is the coming back of what is intended and any moving lines would tell what is coming back. I would say he's coming back and/or you're thinking that you'd like him back - you pick

MK

 

[goddessliss]

Thankyou for sharing MK - it has been an interesting thread for me to read.
I guess we just gotta wait and see but for me I feel it is just a return to self through 'free course and progress'. x

 

[goddessliss]

Update - these words from yoana on this thread -
'it never came to imply a get together again, but always me returning to my own center and moving on to a new cycle of my life - by myself.'

These words say exactly what has happened for me. Although I wouldn't say I am totally, totally over the breakup as discussed on this thread with trojan I feel the process of letting go even further and returning to my own centre is very much happening.
Exhusband and his partner seem very tight now and oops! got caught driving an unregistered vehicle last night. xx

 

[Trojina]

Well you may be returning to your centre but i think you are getting naughtier with these different guys i can't keep up with,...theres the truck driver and there was one before that, and before that a musician I think and now you are driving unregistered vehicles...tut tut

You know I bet you are having alot more fun right now than your ex husbands new woman

heh heh maybe you just have a naughty centre

Power to the Goddess

 

[goddessliss]

Yes having fun but NO not me driving unregistered vehicle I would not be that foolish. Exhusband and his partner got caught driving the unregistered vehicle - they are forever in trouble with the law with DUI, domestic violence, driviing unlicensed etc. etc. real charmers they be....not!

Anyway still keen about truckdriver but seems this is just not a happening thing, but what can you do.
have fun yourself Liss

 

[goddessliss]

Another update as it has been several weeks now - He never tried to Return to me and him and his partner have set up home together again after travelling for near 12 months.
It is safe to say I am finally over this man and this relationship so for me Hex 24 in this case was so much returning to self. xx

 

[goddessliss]

It has been near 5 weeks since I started this thread and it seems it was definitely a return to self.

However an issue came up again regarding child support which I was very surprised about so I took the initiative and rang my exhusband.
The conversation was easy and amicable and I made sure we talked about nothing else except the child support matter although he did express his disappointment that he hasn't been 'consulted' about anything to do with the children since our breakup. I did not respond to that in anyway and the phone call ended on a positive note.
I had a phone call from the child support agency the following day that confirmed the positivity of the phone call betweeen myself and exhusband.

But alas hours later, through a phone call my exhusband had with my son, it seems that all that positivity has gone out the window.

My exhusband and his partner have a very volatile relationship and she has caused a lot of grief for all of us regardless of the fact that I have never met or talked to her. If my exhusband does not do what she says she either leaves or threatens to leave and he gives in - yes we could all analyse that!!

Anyway I was so happy that he and I could at least have reasonable and amicable conversation and I was hoping to do that in the future for any discussions involving our children. I am in no way interested in reconcilling my marriage with him, I just want to be able to talk with him about the kids when needed.

So I have asked the same question -
How will my exhusband act towards me over the next 2 weeks Hex 17 unchanging

Does this suggest he will be keen to Follow the positivity between us?

thks for your help as I move forward
Liss xx

 

[chingching]

yes seems so,

Thunder in the middle of the lake:
The image of FOLLOWING.
Thus the superior man at nightfall
Goes indoors for rest and recuperation.

A sense of a joyful following of intiative/action (trigrams). and then perhaps evening calls around dinner time are good..??? who knows.

FOLLOWING has supreme success.
Perseverance furthers. No blame.

go with the flow, relax in the evenings.

 

[goddessliss]

Thankyou chingching haven't heard from him again so all good so far. I will be interested to see how things pan out now without such emotional attatchment. xx

 

[goddessliss]

Oh dear the only Following I got was abusive txt msges off both exhusband and his partner after their spat of domestic violence which apparently followed my impersonal call to exhusband.
What tha? How do you stop these sort of people.

All I am/was hoping for was an amicable situation with my exhusband for the sake of the children.

So I asked again how will exhusband act towards me over the next week Hex 43.1.5>32

Looks to me like he feels quite humilated about the state of his relationship with his partner but that is all I an understand about this.

How can I bring in an amicable situation btw exhusband and myself

Hex 41.1.6>7

This looks ok like its gonna resolve itself.

thks
Liss xx

 

[patro]

24... just talk about a well know cycle.... you know all about it.

in this case the question to which the Yi answered was more complicated.... you delivered the full background also about the related feeling for it... the 24 answer to all this.
the well known cycle can be referred to the fact that each time your ex split with his partner you think about a reconciliation in a way between you and him... but things evolve always in the same manner.

24 is not positive or a negative hexagram... it simply refers a scheme with which you are familiar and which could be part of your way to realize your destiny.

 

[goddessliss]

Thks patro - 24 is not positive or a negative hexagram... it simply refers a scheme with which you are familiar and which could be part of your way to realize your destiny.

This is an interesting and wonderful way to describe the situation and Hex 24.

As things stand now I don't think about a reconcilliation with him, I think about him becoming healthy if he ever leaves the relationship and us being friends. Unfortunately that is not possible while he stays in his present relationship. My son even got some unfair angst off his dad yesterday because of her demands. It's all just wrong.

The different interpretations on this post makes me realise how one Hexagram can mean so many different things even for one reading. A bit like a tarot card. xx