broken relay switch: 54.1.2.4>2

[anemos]

I try to understand the mechanisms of a specific behavior of mine that causes troubles. I call it " broken relay switch" problem as I fail to understand / perceive when I work too much and exhaust myself.

the question was " please describe what happens" and got 54.1.2.4>2

the imaginary of hex 2 resembles the problem , the lack of that switch;unobstructed flow and hex 54 might stress some inner need to master in my own time a certain issue. Line 4 , i guess, speaks clear about it.

I enjoy immensely some of my projects and experience that " in the flow" thing, but to a extreme , i guess , as I reach to a point that I run out of any energy- literally.

I wonder how you see that reading.


btw, a long time ago I ask a similar question and got 44.2 - again an inappropriate consumption

 

[Trojina]

I try to understand the mechanisms of a specific behavior of mine that causes troubles. I call it " broken relay switch" problem as I fail to understand / perceive when I work too much and exhaust myself.

It is such a common problems they have courses here run by the hospital to help people with certain conditions discern when enough is enough. It's actually really hard, as it's not really natural for us to stop before we have accomplished what we want to do. So I don't think perhaps this is a personal failed switch, it's the same for many people.


There are strategies for helping yourself like doing the same amount each day however you feel. Sometimes people do to too much when they feel well but then they relapse when that over tires them.

Anyway the reading 54.1.2.4>2 looks to me like definitely like being of the mindset of 'service to others' and the hex 2 makes me think this is down to your conditioning as a 'helpful daughter' and the role of helpful daughter extends to all areas of life, even your own personal goals. So fundamentally by making yourself into a servant to some things you lose the cue for what best to do for you. This is common for many women as often in family life women cannot say 'I'm tired now and do not want to tend to X, Y and Z, we are not conditioned that way. I'd not thought of hex 2 as conditioned behaviours before but I do see it almost like a default mode...the groove, the path we run on without conscious thought. And of course 54 is a secondary role. You make yourself secondary to your work.

There looks to be a degree of single minded about this, in 54.2, but there's also not much help to be had there. 54.4 suggests to me you are going to find a way to get comfortable with your own energies and work style, it's just taking a while to get there, possibly due to conditioning.

This slow progress shows in the change patterns, Yang pattern 54, yin pattern 53. You can't rush yourself into change here, be patient...stressed by 54.4 too of course.


I think there's loads more to see in the reading but am just giving a very quick impression.

 

[anemos]

It is such a common problems they have courses here run by the hospital to help people with certain conditions discern when enough is enough. It's actually really hard, as it's not really natural for us to stop before we have accomplished what we want to do. So I don't think perhaps this is a personal failed switch, it's the same for many people.


There are strategies for helping yourself like doing the same amount each day however you feel. Sometimes people do to too much when they feel well but then they relapse when that over tires them.

didn't knew that ! could you tell me how the name it and those courses so I could find something relevant on the net ?

I'd not thought of hex 2 as conditioned behaviours before but I do see it almost like a default mode...the groove, the path we run on without conscious thought.

it has occur to me something similar. Not sure if its condinioned behaviours or unconditioned offer but I have been thinking about the 'dark" side of hex 2 a lot lately. Got hex 2 un when asked how to deal with some incidence when i was taking in so much - things of others . It was like my receptors were catching lots of things that was not really my business so the image of this hex illustrated my feeling- an oversensitive receptor without any filters . Unpolished thoughts sofar but you get the grip , i guess.Maybe we say the same thing we other words.

will respond later to some points you make. Need to thing more about lines 1 & 2 . those are not very clear to me .

thank you for your input

 

[Trojina]

didn't knew that ! could you tell me how the name it and those courses so I could find something relevant on the net ?

Here the courses are run under the services of Pain Management....so it's a hospital department that runs it for anyone with ongoing pain or fatigue or both. As far as I know the hospital is theonly place that runs it here. It's part of the NHS, National Health Service. There is a lot about 'pacing' in it and all the mental processes that may hinder your pacing.

it has occur to me something similar. Not sure if its condinioned behaviours or unconditioned offer but I have been thinking about the 'dark" side of hex 2 a lot lately. Got hex 2 un when asked how to deal with some incidence when i was taking in so much - things of others . It was like my receptors were catching lots of things that was not really my business so the image of this hex illustrated my feeling- an oversensitive receptor without any filters . Unpolished thoughts sofar but you get the grip , i guess.Maybe we say the same thing we other words.

Yes I see plenty of the dark side of 2. I think people always idealise it as wondrous receptivity but it can be being a sponge, a backdrop a door mat too, especially as relating hex I think. When 2 is the relating hexagram maybe it's in service of the primary. Your reading may show being in service to the 54 role. But I think you grow out of that gradually (54.4)

 

[anemos]

Here the courses are run under the services of Pain Management....

that gave me an AHA moment !!! hadn't the time to research it but I think I understand the relevance and Yi's answers. Notice the circumstances Little Mei has to face and given those limitations ( lines 1 & 2) still can reach line 4.

the conditioning you talked about holds some truth but what was confusing me was the specific activities I'm doing in my personal time not closely related to others. but there is another conditioning, that might have some common roots yet its a self conditioning of not accepting the body's limitations. So, I guess you are right; maybe the relay is not broken but there is another "signal" louder saying " you are not tired"... or "it doesn't pain"...

I was pondering on h2 and what was its message; to what I was submissive or to what i should open up. probably its the mute message the louder one was obstructing. It occurs to me that this reading describes the problem and offeres the solution too, so I can see both sides of h2 : "traditional' and dark.

Your input was really helpful. Thanks. It gave some hints to see the issue from another angle.