Can Yi change his mind? Hexagram 49.2>43 (canceled) and hexagram 50.1.5>1

[Whitefox]

I have got a problem in a throw’s interpretation and I have canceled a reading but in the end I have got two opposites hexagrams as results.

The first hexagram that I cast (and I canceled) was 49.2>43, but I was not sure about the last lines’s interpretation ‘cause could I have got the hexagram 36 with the same mutant line, so I decide to made another throw. Next hexagram was the 50.1.5>1.

This two hexagrams are totally opposite, according to me hexagrams 49 with the second mutant line are an invite to made a change, even get away from something that doesn’t work in fact the line say: “When one's own day comes, one may create revolution. Starting brings good fortune. No blame”.

Hexagram 50 with the first and fifth mutant lines is totally opposite in meaning. In my opinion Yi wanna say to remove the dirt from the cauldron, look for clarification, because inside the pot there is food.
“A cauldron with legs upturned. Furthers removal of stagnating stuff. One takes a concubine for the sake of her son. No blame.”
“The cauldron has yellow handles, golden carrying rings. Perseverance furthers”

I made this readings about I guy that I have dated this summer but I broke up with. I try to talk with him this week but the attempt doesn’t go as I hope. I still have some feelings for him but I haven’t well understand if I am really important for him. So I have asked to Yi what I could expect from him and how to behave. Which hexagram should I listen to? Can Yi change his mind?

 

[Whitefox]

I have missed something in my explanation? I se no answer and I’m quite sad

 

[Liselle]

What do you mean when you say you cancelled the reading? Were you worried you wrote it down wrong?

What might be going on (might) is Yi cleverly and kindly commented on the casting mishap. Notice how the two hexagrams are inverted pairs, 49 and 50. The same hexagram, seen from the opposite end.

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49........50

Then, I think 50 line 1 might be the casting comment: "You think you messed up, so you dumped that one out and started over? No mistake, no blame, it's okay..."

Then, with 50.1 accounted for, 50.5 is left. That's the same line as the first one (49.2), seen from the opposite end (marked with Xs).

What to make of this for your question? I really am not sure. If it were me, I think I might conclude I hadn't messed up after all, and 49.2 was the correct casting. BUT ALSO that it's okay to do what you did in a situation like that.

Unfortunately I don't have good ideas about what 49.2 means as an answer. Will try a guess. Since there are two of you involved, you and your recent boyfriend, I'm tempted to see the paired line 50.5 as pertaining to him, and conclude if you give him some time to process things (50), the day will come (49.2) when he will actually hear what you're trying to say (50.5 - the carrying rings were referred to as the cauldron's ears in China and it often means that in readings.)

I'm not sure of that. But when there are two people or some sort of obvious other side in a situation, Yi can use pairs this way sometimes.

Plus, you asked both "how to behave" and "what to expect from him" in the same question. It's best to ask one at a time , but I think Yi might have taken the opportunity to answer both.

 

[Whitefox]

I’m actually quite scared about Yi now cause the direct comment about my messed up cast. At least for Yi is fine that I throw another reading, this is quite comforting.

I’m sorry for making two questions at the same time but I’m quite nervous when I made it. However I find romantic the idea that Yi try to pair the readings making me throwing again the coins with the purpose of let me see clearly what my ex have in mind.
I will let you informed about any update
to made a check with the cast, thanks for you help Liselle.

 

[Liselle]

I use my computer to cast my readings exactly for this reason. If you'd want to give that a try, Hilary provides a free reading page to start with:

Free I Ching reading

IntroductionIn a way, this is the core of Clarity: a place where you can encounter the oracle. Even though you're doing so through a screen rather than coins or yarrow, it is still the same Book of Change: the same ancient words and images, the same very present power to help. A reading can enab

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(But if you already know you don't like doing it that way, you are definitely not alone and now you know Yi is forgiving!)

 

[Liselle]

Oh, by the way... I don't necessarily think Yi made you mess up. It might have just taken advantage of the situation. Thinking Yi can control our physical selves like that is hard to get to grips with.

I suppose anything's possible, though, who knows for sure.

 

[Whitefox]

I’m quite new with the I Ching and I don’t use it so often but I am a tarot lover and I read tarot from five years, so I always prefer made a real cast when I ask a question to the spiritual energies.

Making mistakes is a good way to learn like also, of course, talking with people more expert than you. For this reason ty for explaining me how Yi taking advantage from my mistaken throw, is always useful know something new.

About the question that themed the cast there is nothing new to write about. I’m personally more close to the hexagrams 49 that for me wanna say simply “let go, you have done your best” but I hope that one day the guy wanna listen more what I have to say.

 

[Albatross]

I’m actually quite scared about Yi now cause the direct comment about my messed up cast. At least for Yi is fine that I throw another reading, this is quite comforting.

I’m sorry for making two questions at the same time but I’m quite nervous when I made it. However I find romantic the idea that Yi try to pair the readings making me throwing again the coins with the purpose of let me see clearly what my ex have in mind.
I will let you informed about any update
to made a check with the cast, thanks for you help Liselle.

My personal position about Yi "persona" is that they'll guide you with kindness. How is that? When you receive an answer from Yi, if you give time to that answer, in some way, the answer begin to take form in your life, not by brute force, but because you began, unconsciously (?), to understand the purpose of your question and the way Yi try to guide you.

 

[Albatross]

I have got a problem in a throw’s interpretation and I have canceled a reading but in the end I have got two opposites hexagrams as results.

The first hexagram that I cast (and I canceled) was 49.2>43, but I was not sure about the last lines’s interpretation ‘cause could I have got the hexagram 36 with the same mutant line, so I decide to made another throw. Next hexagram was the 50.1.5>1.

I think this is a beginner fear. I am a beginner myself and sometimes I had this impulse to made the question again. May be can help this article.

Are there any wrong questions?

Not really, no. There’s certainly no topic you can’t ask about. (Though people who try to use the oracle for immoral ends are unlikely to enjoy its answers!) Also, the wording of your question isn’t that important. You’re not spending time on the question so as to explain things to the Yi and make s

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Can Yi change his mind?

I don't believe that Yi change his mind, I believe that use different image to enlight your situation, but you have to allow the oracle to talk to you. Yi threw the answer that you need, not the answers that you want.

If you read the essay about 49, you could see that it's related with 50. Perhaps you have to follow the first answer for the actual situation. And the second reading advice you about the same situation but related with your awareness, you are the vessel that have to "cook" your actual experience and impulse new creative force (Hex. 1) in your inner self.

49, Radical Change

The revolution in hexagram 49 has deep roots. In hexagram 47, you experience Oppression, and turn inward to reconnect with the Well. And drinking from the unchanging source creates the imperative for change in the outer world. 'The way of the Well does not allow not changing radically.' Change is es

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The commentary (Tuanzhuan) says first of all that the Vessel is a symbol. It’s not just that the Vessel itself is powerfully symbolic; it’s also that its way of working is like that of a symbol, that ‘cooks’ the raw stuff of experience into significance. The trigrams, wood within the fire, show gentleness and inward penetration nourishing ‘clear eyes and quick ears’.

This can’t happen, though, without the preceding hexagram: 49, Radical Change. In the Zhou story that runs through the Yijing, this would be the moment of overthrowing the ruling Shang dynasty; the Vessel represents founding the new one. You can’t establish truly new ways of relating, understanding and being unless the old ways have been taken apart. So when your readings situate you between Radical Change and the Vessel, it’s a time when routine and reactions are to be overthrown. Anything in your life that runs on ‘automatic pilot’, without the enlivening presence of awareness, is like the brittle old regime where the spirits were absent.

 

[Albatross]

About the question that themed the cast there is nothing new to write about. I’m personally more close to the hexagrams 49 that for me wanna say simply “let go, you have done your best” but I hope that one day the guy wanna listen more what I have to say.

An idea came to me yesterday in the morning. The first answer (49.2>43) was for your original problem and the second a recommendation to you about how approach to the first reading. Because the second reading is the vessel and it's related with cooking, I began to think that Yi was saying something like you must allow that the "food" (the reading) have a good cooking, after the well cooking the creative force will activate to show the answer you need.

 

[Albatross]

I have got a problem in a throw’s interpretation and I have canceled a reading but in the end I have got two opposites hexagrams as results.

I was searching for other thing but I found this answer from Hillary relevant to this thread,

I’d suggest that the second time you ask, you’re actually not asking the same question again. You may be using exactly the same words, but the intention behind them has changed. You could ask ‘How will this work out?’ several times in succession, but really be asking…

1. How will this work out (if I carry on as before)?
2. But what if I really, really do my best, then how will it work out?
3. What happens if I ask the same again?
4. Can I trust this oracle at all?

…and so on. The Yi doesn’t only answer the words you use; it answers the whole person asking, through the ‘doorway’ of the question.

 

[Whitefox]

Well, after some weeks I can clearly say that me and that guy completely messed up.
There was a rapprochement, but I expressed the need not to go too fast. Result? He started to date another person and I asked him to walk away.
I asked Yi for another advice on the situation and his answer was consistent and unambiguous:
hexagram 56.3>23 and hexagram 34.5.6>1.
Right now he is overestimating himself and has decided to behave arrogantly. In this way he produces the fire in the inn and the escape of the servant as in line three of the hexagram 56.
In this moment I’m really feeling used, sad and unappreciated

 

[Liselle]

You seized the day and expressed your wishes, which seems like 49.2.