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I am constantly amazed at the terrible names people give the hexagrams.And then if you use Cyrille Javary's name, Welcoming the Yin,
I don't disagree - my intent was to show connections/disconnections between the oracle and image text and also with the hexagram names, which are quite varied.I am constantly amazed at the terrible names people give the hexagrams. Welcoming the Yin is exactly the opposite of 44's meaning. .... In my never ending critique of James Dekorne: ....
As to James Dekorne's website, a bane for many of us, especially when people cut and past a dozen different versions of the Yi's text - or when they select the most 'positive' or 'spiritual' interpretations - it's like a really bad smorgasbord.
Nothing wrong in itself, generally speaking. (other than violation of copyright law)What's wrong with the easy availability of so many translations and commentaries?
Liquidity, thanks for pointing out my willingness to jump on the 'bash DeKorne's website bandwagon" without more consideration or knowledge about it - similar I suppose how it might be too easy to jump on the Trump- or Hilary-bashing bandwagon.What's wrong with the easy availability of so many translations and commentaries? .... I find DeKorne's website a tremendous resource. Isn't it for the same kinds of reasons you find it informative to look at different names for the hexagrams?
I could see that if you think that 36 is about 'clouding the perception of others,' that Clouded Perception might not be so bad, just that it's about other's clouded perception, not one's own. I'm not drawn to that particular name, however, since with 36 you have Fire below Earth (sans clouds), which reminds me of banking a fire with earth, to make it last until morning. I see it as hiding oneself or reserving one's resources, or one's clarity, light, or passion until the opportune time to make use of them.I am constantly amazed at the terrible names people give the hexagrams .... In my never ending critique of James Dekorne: He calls 36 Clouded Perception, when it is in fact about clouding the perception of others.
I see it as hiding oneself or reserving one's resources, or one's clarity, light, or passion until the opportune time to make use of them.
Neither Clouded Perception nor clouding the perception of others rings true for me with this Gua, but that's just my take on it - neither right or wrong, just different - but then again, maybe it's my perception that's clouded here! Perhaps next time I get it in a reading, I'll try on your understanding and see how it fits for me. I do agree, however that Clouded Perception is not a name I really like or would use.... And when you do this, you are clouding the perception of others who may be watching by hiding your intentions, thoughts, feelings, plans.This is the key element of 36. The hiding was necessary to preserve the lives of the people named or referred to in the chapter.
I think 'clouded perception' is terrible and problematic.
What's wrong with the easy availability of so many translations and commentaries? I mean, it's a text that's thousands of years old -- no one's going to be able to get into modern English perfectly. I find DeKorne's website a tremendous resource. Isn't it for the same kinds of reasons you find it informative to look at different names for the hexagrams?
As to James Dekorne's website, a bane for many of us, especially when people cut and past a dozen different versions of the Yi's text - or when they select the most 'positive' or 'spiritual' interpretations - it's like a really bad smorgasbord.
What's wrong with the easy availability of so many translations and commentaries? I mean, it's a text that's thousands of years old -- no one's going to be able to get into modern English perfectly. I find DeKorne's website a tremendous resource.
Thanks, Chinching:The wind, the night, attraction - unseen and blinding. Tornados! Kali, Medea, Lillith, Eris, Witches. I like Tornado better.
Hilary's lil vid connects the text and image wonderfully, although still in favour of order as the goal, or the goal as order, how to impregnate the world with your will - because that is what a good translator would conclude, because that is the advice of 44, because it was written by people operating out of a particular cosmology, ideology and cultural structure. I think the prince's mandate can be updated and I like that modern contributors have given that a go, even if their try is a bit clumsy.
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How the prince used it for his mandate is useful advice, but is still about using the wild for creating order, for personal will and achievement.
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The wind is like the untameable and instinctual within and between us.
That's my effort for connecting this text to image, although I will say I mostly joined in to dismantle Now the wind is taking me away
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Now the wind is taking me away.
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