Deepening Intimacy (17.2.3 > 43)

[akath19]

Hey!


I haven't posted in a long time but I've been trying to understand my own readings without having to come here for insight (but I do read a lot of the posts, especially the one's about line and hex analysis).

Anyway I just asked "How can I become more intimate with X?" and got 17.2.3 > 43, usually I'd try to understand the reading on my own but I found that the lines offer contradictory advice:

Line 2: Involved with little fellow, lose great person.

Now I see this as being to childish and maybe losing the real depth that a relationship can have.

Line 3: Involved with great person, loses little fellow

I see this as having a real depth to the connection but at the same time losing the childlike spirit and perhaps love??.

In Jack Balkin's book both lines talk about immediate gratification and halfhearted efforts, but believe me that is precisely the contrary to what I'm doing/want to do in this relationship, Balkin also talks about self destructive patters but I don't seem to be able to find any other reference to that in any other book.


And the relating hex doesn't help much at all (43 -> Breakthrough).

Can you guys please help me understand this one, 'cause this is one of those puzzles that I just can't seem to be able to solve by myself.

P.S.: While writing this post I wondered if the word "especially" was properly used and found this, that clarified a lot of things for me, it doesn't have anything to do with the reading, just an interesting fact I found.

 

[meng]

Howdy,

There are advantages and disadvantages to the little boy and the mature man. I think the Yi is saying to follow both, and also that this significant other might be more inclined toward someone who has both, a sense of humor and a sense of purpose.

43 means speaking out, showing who you are and where you stand, but without being combative.

 

[my_key]

Hi akath19

"How can I become more intimate with X?" and got 17.2.3 > 43,

It may help you with your understanding when you remember that Line 2 is about how you connect with other people and walk your path, while line 3 is more to do with emotions, thoughts and things that influence you.

At the moment you are strongly being influence by your desires , however if you gradually rein these in and introduce a more positive way with how you connect to X and improve how you deal with your thoughts and other outside influences then you will move to a more intimate relationship.
This seems to be commenting in a way about your "maturing" and the best way to approach that for you and then this will bring intimacy into the relationship.

Be Well
Mike

PS just had a thought......what is your interpretation of intimate?

 

[akath19]

Thanx guys, both your answers are exactly what I was thinking.

Meng: Following both is kinda what life is all about (grow but don't lose your inner child).

My_Key: Up until recently I was completely influenced (trying to not say controlled) by my desires, but in the past few months that has changed a lot (maybe the Yi is showing me the path already walked?).
You're also right when you say that reining my desires helps a lot to create a better relationship.

To answer your kinda difficult question, for me being intimate with someone is being able to share everything (that can be shared) with them, it's about trusting the other person and opening up to them in a way that you rarely do (at least that was what I was thinking when I asked the question).

Do you think maybe that changes the interpretation of the answer??

 

[my_key]

To answer your kinda difficult question, for me being intimate with someone is being able to share everything (that can be shared) with them, it's about trusting the other person and opening up to them in a way that you rarely do (at least that was what I was thinking when I asked the question).

Do you think maybe that changes the interpretation of the answer??

What a lovely answer to a difficult question.
Now for your difficult question - Does it change the interpretation? That's not really one I can answer. If what you have written was what you had in your heart when you posed the question then the answer the Yi gave you was the right one for you. It's all about what you make of the interpretation.
Having had to think a bit more about it, and got couple of insights.........how would you interpret the answer to your original question now?

Be Well

Mike