Dreaming of binary numbers Hex. 19uc

[isacosmo]

I had this tiny, quick 'dream' --- for those who know it, it is that dream that comes right before we wake up, like a vision.
Someone I care immensely about is handing me this piece of paper with two rows written on it: a sequence of numbers without any logic order --- lets say 36912046 --- and a binary sequence, like 10001011001

I asked What is that dream telling me?
I got Hex. 19uc

"Approach. Supreme success"

But what about the part that warns about the 8th month?

Any ideas re. the 'dream'?

Thank you!

 

[isacosmo]

Right. I forgot I asked further:
What is the unfortunate thing re. the 8th month here?

Got hex 51.5

There is shock, but "I will survive"??

 

[BlindedFox]

this tiny, quick 'dream'
hex 19uc, there is a lesson to be understood about the dream. It is teaching you something-that your Self wants you to know. The dream is about how you "approach" things, how you communicate with the others.

Imagine handing yourself a piece of paper with those numbers. What would you think? What does it make you feel? The answer will lead to 51.5 and you will survive once you see it in motion on the 8th month, "the month before harvest time", by protecting your insight from outside rumble following through on your hard achieved vision.

 

[surnevs]

I had this tiny, quick 'dream' --- for those who know it, it is that dream that comes right before we wake up, like a vision.
Someone I care immensely about is handing me this piece of paper with two rows written on it: a sequence of numbers without any logic order --- lets say 36912046 --- and a binary sequence, like 10001011001

I asked What is that dream telling me?
I got Hex. 19uc

"Approach. Supreme success"

But what about the part that warns about the 8th month?

Any ideas re. the 'dream'?

Thank you!

Hi isacosmo, I have wondered about this sentence too, since I first met it years ago.
% I've attached a pdf where Alfred Huang gives his take on it.

 

[surnevs]

- the eight month, which is hexagram 20's place (in the annual cycle seen in the pdf) being the opposite of hexagram 19 (turned around) has the name (tag) Watching (A. Huangs transl.) so I'll guess it could mean something like Fortune is guaranteed (two light lines growing up in hex. 19) but watch and behave! History tells that it can flip (hex. 20 where the two light lines are being pressed out) suddenly. But I really don't know if this is the way to understand it. I've been thinking that just like the secret societies like the Rosicrucians hide their communication with un-understandable symbols, so could the cryptic imaginary language in which the I Ching is written likewise be to keep others than the diviners of ancient times out of understanding ???

Edit: be aware, not: behave

 

[my_key]

I asked What is that dream telling me?
I got Hex. 19uc

Those 'quick dreams' can be moments of real insight and do need to be sat with to gain the best perspective.

Hex 19 alludes to something powerful approaching you that will help you in unforeseen ways. Sit with the teachings you have received in the dream and let them take shape. You want to know the answer now, I suspect, but sometimes shutting up shop and letting the answer come to you will bring its own rewards.

What is the unfortunate thing re. the 8th month here?

Got hex 51.5

There is shock, but "I will survive"??

Hex 51 carries the charge of the shock being fertilising so it is always helpful to not focus on the unfortunateness of the shock but what are the positive changes that it brings with it. Think, every cloud has a silver lining.

The call of Hex 51 is to correct aspects of you that are currently out of kilter for your necessary next steps in your world. There is a wake up call set for you and 51.5 asks that you keep focussed on stepping forward into the new you, rather than returning to your old ways of viewing and dealing with the world.

My suspicions are that if you are truly resolute then the old you will not survive. The new you though will be full of new beans planted and all ready to grow. Enjoy, even though in the beginning it may seem that you have stepped out of the frying pan and into the fire (19 - 8th month).

... or it might mean nothing like this at all for you.

 

[Trojina]

I had this tiny, quick 'dream' --- for those who know it, it is that dream that comes right before we wake up, like a vision.
Someone I care immensely about is handing me this piece of paper with two rows written on it: a sequence of numbers without any logic order --- lets say 36912046 --- and a binary sequence, like 10001011001

I asked What is that dream telling me?
I got Hex. 19uc

"Approach. Supreme success"

But what about the part that warns about the 8th month?

Any ideas re. the 'dream'?

Thank you!

The warning about the 8th month is only for if the work in springtime, the time of 19, of hard work of taking responsibility, is not done. If you don't plant in springtime then there is no harvest in the 8th month.
Hence there was no need to ask what the misfortune would be, one wouldn't ask that every time one cast 19!

I'd say most often those quick visions are flashes of some small event to come, they are fragments. (They can also be of the forgotten past/past beyond your lifetime ) I would find for example I would come across the 'vision' a day or a week or a month later in waking life. Perhaps there will be a day when for some reason this person does hand you these rows of figures and in waking life it will all make sense.


For example one time I saw a particular kind of curtain blowing in the breeze with some flowers in a vase on the windowsill. No need to go hunting down the symbology at all for in the course of my life I did indeed see that moment in waking life when visiting. Also 19 shows the approach of events/people etc so this little vision comes ahead of time perhaps, just a little snippet of some future scene. It's quite a mystery of course as we don't plan to get into those visions we have seen yet somehow we arrive there. One day you might be having a conversation about a topic and before you know it they are handing you this paper and in context you understand why the numbers. One morning I saw a face clearly before me but I didn't need to start analysing the meaning of it for I met her a day or two later. 19 there would be a kind of 'this is coming/this approaches' message.


I don't think you need to take this as any kind of 'lesson' or anything like that nor sit ponderously considering the deeper meaning, I think this is much more immediate.

 

[isacosmo]

What does it make you feel?

Oho! I forgot to add the detail ---- As I see the offered piece of paper, I feel very excited, as if it was a desired challenge I was happy to face.

So it might be telling me that whatever the toils and efforts, I Approach them with excitement?

 

[isacosmo]

Those 'quick dreams' can be moments of real insight and do need to be sat with to gain the best perspective.

They are! They are, I feel, made of a stuff other than a "normal", Freudean dream (if these were only normal heh).

Hex 19 alludes to something powerful approaching you that will help you in unforeseen ways. Sit with the teachings you have received in the dream and let them take shape. You want to know the answer now, I suspect, but sometimes shutting up shop and letting the answer come to you will bring its own rewards.

I think I have to be content with the detail about this dream that I forgot to add to my post, and I told BlindedFox about: I felt excited while looking at the paper handed to me. Very excited at the prospect of something I dont know about. How crazy is that!

Hex 51 carries the charge of the shock being fertilising so it is always helpful to not focus on the unfortunateness of the shock but what are the positive changes that it brings with it. Think, every cloud has a silver lining.

The call of Hex 51 is to correct aspects of you that are currently out of kilter for your necessary next steps in your world. There is a wake up call set for you and 51.5 asks that you keep focussed on stepping forward into the new you, rather than returning to your old ways of viewing and dealing with the world.

My suspicions are that if you are truly resolute then the old you will not survive. The new you though will be full of new beans planted and all ready to grow. Enjoy, even though in the beginning it may seem that you have stepped out of the frying pan and into the fire (19 - 8th month).

... or it might mean nothing like this at all for you.

You are so spot on. It does mean a lot, you guys have no idea! I think I will be/ I am so resolute (the ecxitement i felt during that dream tells me that) and the feedback you people are so kindly offering here, give me more resoluteness to go on walking these difficult times (inside me and beyond me).

 

[isacosmo]

The warning about the 8th month is only for if the work in springtime, the time of 19, of hard work of taking responsibility, is not done. If you don't plant in springtime then there is no harvest in the 8th month.
Hence there was no need to ask what the misfortune would be, one wouldn't ask that every time one cast 19!

Yeah, my bad. I am so full in my head, I got insecure..

I'd say most often those quick visions are flashes of some small event to come, they are fragments. (They can also be of the forgotten past/past beyond your lifetime ) I would find for example I would come across the 'vision' a day or a week or a month later in waking life. Perhaps there will be a day when for some reason this person does hand you these rows of figures and in waking life it will all make sense.


For example one time I saw a particular kind of curtain blowing in the breeze with some flowers in a vase on the windowsill. No need to go hunting down the symbology at all for in the course of my life I did indeed see that moment in waking life when visiting. Also 19 shows the approach of events/people etc so this little vision comes ahead of time perhaps, just a little snippet of some future scene. It's quite a mystery of course as we don't plan to get into those visions we have seen yet somehow we arrive there. One day you might be having a conversation about a topic and before you know it they are handing you this paper and in context you understand why the numbers. One morning I saw a face clearly before me but I didn't need to start analysing the meaning of it for I met her a day or two later. 19 there would be a kind of 'this is coming/this approaches' message.


I don't think you need to take this as any kind of 'lesson' or anything like that nor sit ponderously considering the deeper meaning, I think this is much more immediate.

Trojina
Lemme digest this first, it is so
*saves draft* (11am local time)

- the eight month, which is hexagram 20's place (in the annual cycle seen in the pdf) being the opposite of hexagram 19 (turned around) has the name (tag) Watching (A. Huangs transl.) so I'll guess it could mean something like Fortune is guaranteed (two light lines growing up in hex. 19) but watch and behave! History tells that it can flip (hex. 20 where the two light lines are being pressed out) suddenly. But I really don't know if this is the way to understand it. I've been thinking that just like the secret societies like the Rosicrucians hide their communication with un-understandable symbols, so could the cryptic imaginary language in which the I Ching is written likewise be to keep others than the diviners of ancient times out of understanding ???

Edit: be aware, not: behave

Thank you surnevs, for your feedback and the PDF.

No need to Edit. *Behave* is oddly crucial here

I guess all forms of contact with the Divine ('divination') are half-displayed. Not half-hidden, if you know what I mean. Tarot, IChing, profetic dreams, empaths and their messages.... All half-displayed. One does t get the whole thing from Above

 

[surnevs]

Hi isacosmo,
What Trojina says about "the eight month":
"The warning about the 8th month is only for if the work in springtime, the time of 19, of hard work of taking responsibility, is not done. If you don't plant in springtime then there is no harvest in the 8th month.
Hence there was no need to ask what the misfortune would be, one wouldn't ask that every time one cast 19!" (#7)
- sounds very logical. It was new to me to see it this way. Hope You can use it.

 

[Trojina]

I think that's what Bradford said about the 8th month, think that's where I got it from but can't recall, but it makes sense doesn't it.

 

[surnevs]

Absolutely. Where I've been searching I found something like that which I guessed in my answer above (#5) but it's very theoretical. John Minford also got an interesting take on it in his book * but I'll spare You for quotes from it. Also because the take on it that You gave can usefully be transformed into nearly any situation; for example: for the farmer to be prepared for harvesttime, for the news reporters to deliver reports up to the deadline of the media, for the student to have a project finished up to examination - the associations are endless. I don't though know how it should fit the dream that isacosmo had, but sure even there it should be possible to find an association if he/she turns it around a couple of times (?)

*) I Ching, Viking, N.Y. 2014, Part I, Hex. XIX

 

[isacosmo]

The warning about the 8th month is only for if the work in springtime, the time of 19, of hard work of taking responsibility, is not done. If you don't plant in springtime then there is no harvest in the 8th month.
Hence there was no need to ask what the misfortune would be, one wouldn't ask that every time one cast 19!

I'd say most often those quick visions are flashes of some small event to come, they are fragments. (They can also be of the forgotten past/past beyond your lifetime ) I would find for example I would come across the 'vision' a day or a week or a month later in waking life. Perhaps there will be a day when for some reason this person does hand you these rows of figures and in waking life it will all make sense.


For example one time I saw a particular kind of curtain blowing in the breeze with some flowers in a vase on the windowsill. No need to go hunting down the symbology at all for in the course of my life I did indeed see that moment in waking life when visiting. Also 19 shows the approach of events/people etc so this little vision comes ahead of time perhaps, just a little snippet of some future scene. It's quite a mystery of course as we don't plan to get into those visions we have seen yet somehow we arrive there. One day you might be having a conversation about a topic and before you know it they are handing you this paper and in context you understand why the numbers. One morning I saw a face clearly before me but I didn't need to start analysing the meaning of it for I met her a day or two later. 19 there would be a kind of 'this is coming/this approaches' message.


I don't think you need to take this as any kind of 'lesson' or anything like that nor sit ponderously considering the deeper meaning, I think this is much more immediate.

Finally sat for your feedback. Sorry, yesterday bad back (actually, muscular pain).

Amazing to read about your experiences. I have had one such a couple of years now. In a 'vision' I saw 2 IChing trigrams, and at the same time, two reasonably connected thoughts: the first trigram, one thought; the 2nd, another thought --- "Gathering of people" / "Hard time explaining". These two. Sooo IChing-y, right? And, less than a month later, that thing happened, but of course, during the actual thing, I didn't think of that dream --- as I was busy being at a certain place, and racking up my brains to explain why I couldnt do something I was asked to do
Only many days later, asking the IC about that odd dream, the reply was Hx. 63 uc , which I though was: "Nah, it's happened already!" Then it came to me the whole story.... Oh dear God!! How marvellous can this crazy life be.

I haven't considered that that particular dream about numbers can be a flash of premonition, really I didnt! Can very well be so. And, exactly as you put it, I'd only know the whole story/context when it happens.

Thank you for your rich feedback.

 

[isacosmo]

Absolutely. Where I've been searching I found something like that which I guessed in my answer above (#5) but it's very theoretical. John Minford also got an interesting take on it in his book * but I'll spare You for quotes from it. Also because the take on it that You gave can usefully be transformed into nearly any situation; for example: for the farmer to be prepared for harvesttime, for the news reporters to deliver reports up to the deadline of the media, for the student to have a project finished up to examination - the associations are endless. I don't though know how it should fit the dream that isacosmo had, but sure even there it should be possible to find an association if he/she turns it around a couple of times (?)

*) I Ching, Viking, N.Y. 2014, Part I, Hex. XIX

Fits, because I really am going thru an unusual odd, painful time, and I am determined to go on because I have a life goal, and this goal has a face and a name, and likes to pop on my dreams
Also, all IChing castings I've cast regarding these difficulties generally refer to "inner work", "patience", "do nothing, keep going". So I am determined to believe that the springtime's hard work will pay off. Ooph.

 

[surnevs]

isacosmo, I hope You'll succeed (".... Fits, because I really am going thru an unusual odd, painful time, and I am determined to go on because I have a life goal, and this goal has a face and a name, and likes to pop on my dreams.....".)
% I've attached more from the book mentioned on #4

 

[isacosmo]

The "8th month/misfortune" thing does make one chilly thru the bones

 

[surnevs]

On #12 Trojina mentioned Bradford Hatcher and You can get his two-volume work on the I Ching here:
http://www.hermetica.info/ (Just scroll a bit down and download vol. I+II. In vol. I on hex. 19 You'll find it.)