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Erm... where does the idea come from that an unchanging casting is something 'fated'? What does that mean?
The only source I know of that gives distinct meanings for each hexagram unchanging is RL Wing's I Ching Workbook. But I'm not sure her meanings are actually very accurate... or if the task is even possible...
Short version... 'unchanging' might be a kind of punctuation. For instance:
- .
- !
- ...??
- **?!*?&!!***
][B]Everything Trojan said, plus
3a) You haven't yet chosen where to stand in relation to this, or where you're going with it. So 46 unchanging might be 'this ladder you're climbing... what wall is it leaning on, again?'
and either 3b) or 5), not sure which,
Sometimes this can wreak havoc with the original meaning of the hexagram. 52 unchanging is just very, very still. 11 unchanging is... weird and unpredictable. As if all that energy really wants a direction[/B].
OK, so are you saying that unchanging is an indication of over-emphasis pushed to a degree that the influence is distorted and in some hexagrams that distortion is predictable and in others not predictable?
You know, I'm wondering if it's worth undertaking a Rosada-style analysis/poll across the membership of what the 64 unchanging hexagrams are most likely to mean or what they've meant in experience anyway?
I'd be interested in the 'collected experiences with unchanging hexagrams' thread. Somehow I suspect the mystery will survive our best efforts
(I have to say I did not understand trojan`s no 3, probably my English.)
So I would like to know how it is going with the thread also.:bows:
Maybe it's just my thick head but I don't see any special significance between how many lines, if any, a reading gives, other than the continuation of thoughts.
It can say: "It's going to rain." (no lines)
Or, it may say, "It's going to rain----the monsoon winds aren't too severe down south in the two gulfs at present, but that could change overnight, there's no predicting this outcome just yet. Just sit tight for now. Maybe dance and pray for ample rain; all living things could use a good drink. Careful not to drown.
changing to, let's say: 29.
How does that relate to you or I on a *local experiential level? That's what typically concerns our questions.
*Derived from Chris Lofting
BTW I often don't understand your english as much as you don't understand mine. What does your second sentence "so I would like to know how it is going with the thread also' mean ? Which thread ? How whats going ?
Well, I often make the mistake of having an general idea of a hexagram (that may be wrong) and jump straight ahead to the moving lines. They seem to be the most helpful, since often give an advice on action or pin point the meaning of the answer more.
But as in many cases, answer depends on the question.
Funny thing about rain, I casted hex 9 UN and it seemed that the Yi was talking about the actual weather also, or maybe only, since it just finally rained, but only from the clouds in the sky.
Wouldn`t that mean to use your intuition, basically?
cognition --> recognition, intuition as an clear insight, allowed to shine through? sometimes it needs a tool, a trigger, like an IC or even better if it is more simple one, less ancient chinese writings used ?
but on the theme of unchanged hexagram casting, it still feels more static like to me, perhaps because we are coming from the hex 2 position to enquire in the first place, and it confirms our understanding of the situation or a projection...well, until we come from a different point of a wiew.
Hmmm,you have the idea of analyzing and researching, while I was thinking of recognizing immediately, as you said, "someone to have an instant understanding, just by the hexagram" of the situation. For instance, I had 9UN for asking what hapens after doing X and waiting for the reaction made a perfect sense, no matter what one wants to get. Sometimes is just easier then other, what we need to extract from the reading, does not always have to be extra "heavy" stuff, just aproppriate,I think.
Btw, string is a line and a line starts with the dot, many dots added together create a line.
And a dot is/starts from an impulse. How static is an impulse
I know, I like to put something out there, just to see what happens. And I think better by discussing. But I am in a lousy shape lately, just you go onThen I played with "re-cognize", re meaning going back to the beginning and restructuring. This happens on a subtle level, but the 'oh ha!' happens at once, and is then incorrectly labeled as instant intuition.
So really, I'm just having fun with it.
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