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Well. this has been interesting one
2 people said: he won't win (martin and I); 2 people said first he will win and then he won't (rosada and susan) and 1 people said "ceirtanly" he will win (willowfox)
What I learned... why I didn't make a bet to win some money?
2 people said: he won't win (martin and I); 2 people said first he will win and then he won't (rosada and susan) and 1 people said "ceirtanly" he will win (willowfox)
What I learned... why I didn't make a bet to win some money?
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Reading the news about the game, seems the decisive diference between Nadal and Federer was in their mental state: Nadal made 28 "un-forced mistakes" while Federer made 60.
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Hurray for us! That was really fun. I sure learned something about 19. That "misfortune in the 8th month" is a doozy that cannot be ignored. I think we had a discussion about this a while back. A fellow had posted that he tossed 19 in connection with interviewing for a teaching job. He'd been well received and he was wondering if he would be offered the position. I think we all encouraged him that it was looked good. I don't think he ever got back to us with the results but I suspected he would have told us had it been positive. Anyway, from now on I will see 19 to mean, "Close but no cigar."
I read the crowd was orginally for Federer but couldn't help cheering for Nadal at the end. I think you felt there would be some sort of crowd support there, Susan. Oh, and wasn't that grand about the clay and the red knee bands!
I don't know how folks are interpreting Crystal Blue's toss as 12.1. I see it as 25.1>12. Is there confusion because she's put line one at the top rather than the bottom? Anyway, if her toss is interpreted as 25.1> 12 it suggests to me that her 25.1 Innocent assumption of how to do an I Ching toss led to 12. Stagnation, didn't give us an answer, and so we had to do another toss.
I read the crowd was orginally for Federer but couldn't help cheering for Nadal at the end. I think you felt there would be some sort of crowd support there, Susan. Oh, and wasn't that grand about the clay and the red knee bands!
I don't know how folks are interpreting Crystal Blue's toss as 12.1. I see it as 25.1>12. Is there confusion because she's put line one at the top rather than the bottom? Anyway, if her toss is interpreted as 25.1> 12 it suggests to me that her 25.1 Innocent assumption of how to do an I Ching toss led to 12. Stagnation, didn't give us an answer, and so we had to do another toss.
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1. TTT solid change line -x-
2.HTT broken line - -
3. HTT broken line - -
4. THH solid line ----
5. THH solid line ----
6. THH solid line ----
Then to view this with the sixth line at the top:
6 ----
5 ----
4 ----
3-- --
2-- --
1--x--
25.1 > 12
2.HTT broken line - -
3. HTT broken line - -
4. THH solid line ----
5. THH solid line ----
6. THH solid line ----
Then to view this with the sixth line at the top:
6 ----
5 ----
4 ----
3-- --
2-- --
1--x--
25.1 > 12
1. TTT solid change line -x- I read this as 3 tails
2.HTT broken line - - 1 head 2 tails
3. HTT broken line - - 1 head 2 tails
4. THH solid line ---- 1 tail 2 heads
5. THH solid line ---- 1 tail 2 heads
6. THH solid line ---- 1 tail 2 heads
I don't understand that way of TTT being a changing broken line. Is it in Wilhelm introduction by any chance? I have that one at home and can look it up in there, if it is.
well Wimbledon is up next at the end of this month, do you want to throw for it? I think Fed will win that (he is heavy favorite) but it would be interesting to see what it says about Nadal. I also think 54.4 line meant the bridgeroom (I kept saying the girl) that is intended for Fed is Wimbledon, (but also Roland Garros in a few years-when he's 30+)
2.HTT broken line - - 1 head 2 tails
3. HTT broken line - - 1 head 2 tails
4. THH solid line ---- 1 tail 2 heads
5. THH solid line ---- 1 tail 2 heads
6. THH solid line ---- 1 tail 2 heads
I don't understand that way of TTT being a changing broken line. Is it in Wilhelm introduction by any chance? I have that one at home and can look it up in there, if it is.
well Wimbledon is up next at the end of this month, do you want to throw for it? I think Fed will win that (he is heavy favorite) but it would be interesting to see what it says about Nadal. I also think 54.4 line meant the bridgeroom (I kept saying the girl) that is intended for Fed is Wimbledon, (but also Roland Garros in a few years-when he's 30+)
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Hi Susan
No idea, at all... my interpretation was based on my own divination; I didn't pay attention to Crystal's toss.
Best wishes
No idea, at all... my interpretation was based on my own divination; I didn't pay attention to Crystal's toss.
Best wishes
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IMHO
Three TTT --x-- should represent a solid change line.
three HHH --0-- would be a broken change line.
Three TTT --x-- should represent a solid change line.
three HHH --0-- would be a broken change line.
Most people agree that Fed didn't look good mentally.
That Nadal is the toughest mental opponent in tennis.
Fed's 1st serve % was very poor. About 25% in the first set, that's really bad.
Nadal hit to Fed's backhand constantly, Fed said he tried to play with his forehand but Nadal wouldn't let him.
Fed was so upset after the match that he didn't speak to the American tv reporter at the stadium (very unusual, as he is very polite)
That Nadal is the toughest mental opponent in tennis.
Fed's 1st serve % was very poor. About 25% in the first set, that's really bad.
Nadal hit to Fed's backhand constantly, Fed said he tried to play with his forehand but Nadal wouldn't let him.
Fed was so upset after the match that he didn't speak to the American tv reporter at the stadium (very unusual, as he is very polite)
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Based on the answer that I got for Nadal (47>35) I thought that he might win but I expected him to have more problems than he actually had in his match with Federer.
Perhaps this answer also covered his loss to Federer in Hamburg a few weeks earlier. And the fact, according to the site of Roland Garros, that he was 'mentally exhausted'.
A few minutes before the match I 'asked' about Federer's chances by opening the I Ching at a random page (I used 'Language of the Lines' by Richmond, it has two pages for every hexagram).
Hexagram 23 ... oh, ay, ouch ..
It was fun to watch, btw, great players these two.
Perhaps this answer also covered his loss to Federer in Hamburg a few weeks earlier. And the fact, according to the site of Roland Garros, that he was 'mentally exhausted'.
A few minutes before the match I 'asked' about Federer's chances by opening the I Ching at a random page (I used 'Language of the Lines' by Richmond, it has two pages for every hexagram).
Hexagram 23 ... oh, ay, ouch ..
It was fun to watch, btw, great players these two.
"the 35 progress probably means Nadal becomes number one next year because he has already won this tournament two previous times, so where is the progress in that?"
Actually after the French Open Nadal became number 1 in the yearly point system, which is not the same as the overall rankings. Previously federer had been number one in it. So hopefully that Nadal's progress and he doesn't become the true number one over Federer next year.
Actually after the French Open Nadal became number 1 in the yearly point system, which is not the same as the overall rankings. Previously federer had been number one in it. So hopefully that Nadal's progress and he doesn't become the true number one over Federer next year.
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Been meaning to post this for some time...
47.5
His nose and feet are cut off....
Joy comes softly.
Last month there was another tennis tournament and at this one Federer did beat Nadal. I happened to walk into a restaurant where a t.v. was on just as they were passing out the awards and got to see it. The curious thing is that the angle of the camera kept cutting off parts of Fed so either we couldn't see all of his face or else couldn't see his feet, and while the t.v. was on, the sound was turned so low you could barely hear the cheering.
47.5
His nose and feet are cut off....
Joy comes softly.
Last month there was another tennis tournament and at this one Federer did beat Nadal. I happened to walk into a restaurant where a t.v. was on just as they were passing out the awards and got to see it. The curious thing is that the angle of the camera kept cutting off parts of Fed so either we couldn't see all of his face or else couldn't see his feet, and while the t.v. was on, the sound was turned so low you could barely hear the cheering.
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Hi
Just in case the coment could be of any interest
"Can he ever conquer Paris?
Tuesday, April 29, 2008
By Guillaume Baraise
As a good friend of Federer’s recently told The Sunday Telegraph, “He has just two or three years to realise his dream.” The dream is to win the French Open, the only Grand Slam title to elude the formidable Swiss player, and the friend in question is a certain Pete Sampras, who speaks from experience having himself failed to conquer the red clay of Paris."
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2008-04-29/200804291209472821296.html
Let's see
Just in case the coment could be of any interest
"Can he ever conquer Paris?
Tuesday, April 29, 2008
By Guillaume Baraise
As a good friend of Federer’s recently told The Sunday Telegraph, “He has just two or three years to realise his dream.” The dream is to win the French Open, the only Grand Slam title to elude the formidable Swiss player, and the friend in question is a certain Pete Sampras, who speaks from experience having himself failed to conquer the red clay of Paris."
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2008-04-29/200804291209472821296.html
Let's see
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Just in case the comment could be of any interest
Federer lost again this year. 6-1, 6-3, 6-0
"At 6-1, 2-0 it already looked like a massacre. Nadal was unstoppable, firing forehands, seeing every ball and chasing down everything. Federer was being completely outplayed. Neither his serve nor his forehand were hurting Nadal and he seemed to have no idea as to how to react – he was simply being outclassed."
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2008-06-08/200806081212944449781.html
Best
Federer lost again this year. 6-1, 6-3, 6-0
"At 6-1, 2-0 it already looked like a massacre. Nadal was unstoppable, firing forehands, seeing every ball and chasing down everything. Federer was being completely outplayed. Neither his serve nor his forehand were hurting Nadal and he seemed to have no idea as to how to react – he was simply being outclassed."
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2008-06-08/200806081212944449781.html
Best
Well 2009 and Federer has won the French Open this year.
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/index.html
Originally in the discussion from 2007 Martin said this:
"Okay, I asked if Federer will win Roland Garros (The French Open) this year.
Answer: 54.4 > 19.
Looks like he will win it eventually but probably not this year."
Hooray Martin.
Jesed said this:
"Seems he won't (and probably won't win French Open for the next 3 years) because of emotional dificulties, and even some stomach illness due to worries."
Well 2007 can be one year, 2008 two years and 2009 third year? So this is sort of correct, he was in the final the three previous years w/o winning (2006, 2007, 2008) so three years is certainly relevant to what happened.
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/index.html
Originally in the discussion from 2007 Martin said this:
"Okay, I asked if Federer will win Roland Garros (The French Open) this year.
Answer: 54.4 > 19.
Looks like he will win it eventually but probably not this year."
Hooray Martin.
Jesed said this:
"Seems he won't (and probably won't win French Open for the next 3 years) because of emotional dificulties, and even some stomach illness due to worries."
Well 2007 can be one year, 2008 two years and 2009 third year? So this is sort of correct, he was in the final the three previous years w/o winning (2006, 2007, 2008) so three years is certainly relevant to what happened.
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