Health issues revealed thanks to I Ching

[LadyLigeia]

Hello all of you!
I’m from Spain and I’ve been a silent watcher since more than a decade, when I started tossing coins knowing little about what I was doing.
This forum and all the people joining helped me in lots of questions, and I’ve learnt about the ideal state of mind when asking and I’ve seen there’s a bunch of questions that would be great to explore I think IMO by categories as I’ve seen most of all that have a clear answer are only a few if they are articulated the right way, like action: what should I do?
what should I know?, take the picture of whatever, and working on this I’ve had a bitter but great experience by asking the right questions.


The most important experience ever that I Ching
BTW, I established a good relationship who I talk to as if I were doing it with a beloved friend and is at that moment when everything starts fitting into place with clear answers and so much kindness from I Ching.

So, I have a bipolar disorder that has been my major problem over the last 15 years, I’m 41 now. I started lacking energy 4 years ago so I tried to make amends to live better and healthier but phisicsl health started to fail.
I’ve been telling this tale to every doctor I’ve seen in 5 years, that are many, I exhausted myself, I got depressed and it has been 5 years os listening everything was nervous, like they use to do when somethings wrong with a mental patient.

A few months ago, after a total lack of faith in doctors as they called me a liar tons of times or I was overreacting, I went to see an acupuncturist who shared with me a fantastic copy from the original book of I Ching (that one who speaks about all the society and its operating system, a great book I I never have seen of heard of before, as an entity of living wider than just the sage.)
I went there to alleviate my pains and he told me I had no stomach pulse nor liver, and urged me to go to the doctor as he would injure me more than help. He told me something endocrine or lymbs.
That worked for me as a confirmation of my intuition of something wrong and real was happening. not just my head.
Just before I went there I was asking about my prospects for health in this appointment with the acupuncturist and receive the “meeting his lord in a narrow street”.

That day, after the appointment changed my mind, my strength and renewed my self confidence as I kinda knew something odd was happening, like it happened to me before with thyroid and a few more illness they never found until I told what I thought we should look for.
After that and while waiting for the doctor to see me and hopefully find one who listens my ton of symptoms, as they use to avert eyes as I tell more than 2 or 3 of them and I’m having nearly 20 diseases in a day.

I got all the “bad” ones, I exhausted the sage just to see if maybe my mental state was reflecting on my answers as I’ve found it happens sometimes.

then I made it serious and right in order with the good questions. Picture my health state, how to manage, is it right to go to doctor, what will I find once there, what will be the outcome of the appointment, what are the results and, should I go urgent, etc. All of them filled with 38, 29, 12, 36, 44, 54, 23, 49.
Well, today is the day I’ve found my test point to leukaemia and the lack of trust I would find in doctors to me until they saw. And even there I Ching has calmed me down as I asked how would it be for my parents who are old and in pain; everything works now like a flux of creativity, that peak of greatness when you are connected (as I’m an artist I always relate to a photo session, a whole bunch of pictures use to be s*** but then everything falls into place and it’s great until a peak when experience tells you that it’s not useful still working on that, the photos after are a mess too )

I’m soooooo thankful to the sage as I’ve never found a clear path when asking about relationships and stuff that involves reaction of over people about me, but this has been epic.

Later I’ll try to post some of the questions and hexagrams related ad I keep in my diary.
I’m decided to use this diary during my illness because is something you can easily address and see how it evolves quickly.

I’ve read several times that health questions are not the best for divination but I can say that if you are in a calm state of mind and trust, and ask simple questions you can get it. I also appreciate things told me as they are and no softening the content but the form.
This has been awesome. Sage says it will be a fight I’ll overcome and urged me to live a bit and stop overthinking now as the path is well designed and safe.

I feel the urge to thank you all because I’ve been lurking over years and never thought I would come to this understanding so far, and most of you have been a great great source of knowledge. I thought it’s the polite thing to thank your time invested helping other people at this doubtful moments that are so hard.
Sorry if I’ve mistook some words, I’m not very used to communicate in English even I love the language.
The master in the narrow alley saved my life, for sure! I’m now sure I have found a dear and honest friend in the sage, as I was suspicious of. I used to do all the ritual with coins and that, and what worked for me has been talking to the sage as you’ll do with a trustful and beloved friend who usually is honest and gives heartfelt counselling words.

Thank you all!!! From the bottom of my heart!!

 

[Trojina]

I’ve learnt about the ideal state of mind when asking

Not sure what you mean? One can ask in any state of mind. No ideal state of mind, whatever that is thought to be, is necessary. Also I can't recall anyone ever promoting that idea here very much? You can ask when you are sad or angry or happy or despondent or curious or anxious or whatever you are but you need never try to to cultivate 'the ideal state of mind' in order to consult Yi.

 

[LadyLigeia]

Hello Trojina:

Af far as I'm concerned, -and all of this only my opinion and experience- I Ching urges me to stop asking as I'm asking too much or I'm not in the mood for understanding (by mood I mean severe mood changes, anxiety, not feeling a bit melancholic or a bit more happier).
I've found several times that my intuition when reading and searching for different commentaries and interpretations lead to nothing as I'm nervous. When I'm really deep depressed and not in my usual me (no hope even rational mind works, etc) or when I'm too high on nerves.
I've researched later (not being nervous or depressed) Some of the answers I never understood and even with my best efforts can't make sense related.

I mean, If I'm quiet and think about what I really I want to know. It's not only my intuition works better (and I think this is the key for me and when I get more direct answers). It happens to me that everything is straight forwarded, I don't doubt or misunderstand, something resonates inside. Of course experience asking and reading influences this, but I find this resonation personal.

As I said, like a good loving friend who knows that some information at the wrong time can be bad for the one who asks, and tells you what you need to know when you are able to hear it.

For an example, when some friends and me started knowing I Ching about 2005, the answers were dispelling, as we were dumb about itand asked difficult questions or expecting magic. Now I know why. It's like it was disrespectful. That's my impression. There's some respect about the sage I think It's worth keeping, and don't mean burn incense and lighting candles, I mean interior work and calm.
It's a bit like when you're teenager and decoloratee the hair for dye it in funny colors and later when you have more money and go to Hair dressers you get you were doing almost everything wrong about. Basis is still the same, application is not.

As I said, This is only my experience.

 

[surnevs]

.... to understand "the language behind" (the English and Chinese), and as you pointed out "Intuition" plays an important role. I remember Bradford Hatcher once in a thread mentioned something like 'to have one or two genuine/trustworthy translations of the received text (without interpretations) .... ' * and in this, I can agree on one hand and on the other I find myself, again and again, looking up interpretations because I can't understand these cryptic phrases that somehow I Ching consists of. And to be able to join a forum like this to get clarification on how to interpret/understand the I is a blessed opportunity - yet one has to be aware that the advice one gets from it is basically from "person to person or from the I Ching to you".
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*) I've searched for the specific place without luck here on Clarity, maybe because I can't use the Search engine?

Add.: it has occurred to me that he used the phrase ".... one or two decent translations....", but hasn't been able to
find the thread; think it was in connection with 'bookshelf', but those threads have been shortened since.

 

[LadyLigeia]

.... to understand "the language behind" (the English and Chinese), and as you pointed out "Intuition" plays an important role. I remember Bradford Hatcher once in a thread mentioned something like 'to have one or two genuine/trustworthy translations of the received text (without interpretations) .... ' * and in this, I can agree on one hand and on the other I find myself, again and again, looking up interpretations because I can't understand these cryptic phrases that somehow I Ching consists of. And to be able to join a forum like this to get clarification on how to interpret/understand the I is a blessed opportunity - yet one has to be aware that the advice one gets from it is basically from "person to person or from the I Ching to you".
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*) I've searched for the specific place without luck here on Clarity, maybe because I can't use the Search engine?

Yes! Sometimes I find easier to read other comments as sometimes I can’t understand or nothing resonates. Sometimes I go to the Hilary book, Lise’s, Taoscopy (I know, I know), as I don’t get Wilhem at some times.
Other times I can’t find nothing related here but I go to Taoscopy, see the forest and then I go here and see the trees. It’s usually really good explained from real people perspectives and expressions, and sometimes the mood of that helper fits with yours at that time. It’s a serendipity thing, magic! Sometimes it resonates more with one way to explain, sometimes another is clearer I think.

About the search, I’ve found more accurate results searching on Google “-Exact wording- onlineclarity”, with the “”

When you look for an hexagram like 12.1.3 for example, the search engine gets the results that contain those lines but not restricted to them, like 12.1.2.3.5.
Google the first results that appear are the exact ones if they exist, then the another ones. It’s a programming query for search and they have different parameters, one excludes and the other don’t, but I find more accurate the Google search.