Hello, I am new toIChing, could someone help with my interpretation, thanks...

[gretamar]

This was my question
what do I need to really work on myself?
separation from my Partner of 6 years, not a nice ending..I am very confused, and need to try to know how I can go forward, also my Partner had a lot of issues with me, espeicially anger, am I am hitting myself mentally, thinking alot is my fault...just a little information, so the context of my question can possibly be understood..!
Hope some one can give me a hand for understanding
47 changing to 17..
thanks so much

 

[Trojina]

This was my question
what do I need to really work on myself?
separation from my Partner of 6 years, not a nice ending..I am very confused, and need to try to know how I can go forward, also my Partner had a lot of issues with me, espeicially anger, am I am hitting myself mentally, thinking alot is my fault...just a little information, so the context of my question can possibly be understood..!
Hope some one can give me a hand for understanding
47 changing to 17..
thanks so much

Can you put the lines in, it's much easier for people other wise they have to go and get a pen. So this in 47.1.2>17

Be careful to be moderate in your self judgment. At this point in time you may not be in the best position to see things, it's too near. Someone close can make you feel bad for all kinds of things then years later you come to understand they had their part to play too. 47 describes a situation where you cannot express your truth, you aren't believed or understood, you feel confined. But largely, unless you are literally imprisoned this is within your own mind. 47.1 is a warning not to fall into a pit of despondency. Do try now to shake yourself out of low moods. If someone has been telling you what a problem person you are you may be too inclined to believe it. What isn't going to help here is excess self examination for faults. In couples one often makes out it's all the others fault and this is rarely the case.

47.2 is often about 'making a show' to placate someone or being given the idea one must obey or meet certain conditions required. Hmm well yes one often must meet such conditions but how deep need it go.

17 here is unusual somehow because it is so different from 47 in it's feel. Underneath the anxiety you now experience over this there is clearly some kind of guidance coming through for you. If you can follow your inclinations where they naturally lead you, well that is the 'work on yourself' you need to do.
You won't be able to sense that guidance if you are sitting alone telling yourself what a bad person you are.

So to me this reading is quite clear. Reduce time thinking about your apparent faults which in years to come you will see were not so much bad faults at all but your natural ways of responding to the kinds of behaviours he may have shown. Notice what things interest you and follow through with them. Take up any invitations or interests that show up and don't dwell on this so much.

If you are taking your self worth from a partner who just finished with you then you won't be getting a true picture of who you are.

 

[gretamar]

thank you so much Trojina...your interpretation just rings so true...it's uncanny...well, it's sounds like a very good sense message...
thank you again for your time

 

[Windrell]

Dear Gretamar,
Here it is my interpretation:
You will work on yourself
THE DISCRIMINATION OF WHO & WHAT IS CORRECT TO FOLLOW.
But the learning process will LAST FOR QUITE AWHILE.
During the first phase you will not be capable of finding the solutions on your problems, you will be getting into adversity and you will hide yourself.
During the second phase you will be busy by meaningless social obligations.
You will have a new job -a job could be many things- offer, but you will not be ready yet.
The appropriate attitude you should practice is to express yourself sincerely but not aggressively, and to gain the trust of others.
When you are ready, you would know it!
I think I Ching talks for a major karmic lesson over a long part of your lifetime, and emphasizes WAITING & PERSEVERANCE.
You will make it 100%.

 

[gretamar]

Thank you very much Windrel, yes that makes sense to me too, although, I have a feeling I have been waiting way too long, and there is so much confusion..I would love to me able to integrate the Iching to find more certainty and clarity, naturally, it's not my best skill, but even with the I ching , more than anything I long for clarity..I suppose it will come
My ex partner has tried lately to really want to repair the relationship, my patner seems to have made a lot of discoveries about thier problem, and how they think they have changed (in 2 months) got over anger, and many blocages, I am not at all clarifyed in my thoughts about the whole upset, and do not have any real ideas how to fix it or what I should do for the best for my self..I am still very upset, confused and don't know what to do, except I am too scared to go back in, and very scared that I will regret not trying again. I did a new reading today, maybe you can help again, only if you have time, many thanks.
my question
"what work is best to practice to help me find some sense with all of my feelings and fears with Flo"
I got
Hewagram 62 lines changing 3 and 4 to Hexagram 2

It sounds like I should practice caution, and try to do small things (which ones!!) and there could be some danger, I interpreted, if I go back to the relationship, but there are maybe small things I can do to gain time ,when I read hewagram 2, it makes me think more of my partner, purposefully out to get what they want, lots of

 

[Trojina]

Okay so after telling you how problematic you are as a person for some time when your (ex) partner sees you might just be okay without him/her all of a sudden s/he is full of remorse and wants to make it work again ? It's a pattern I've seen before. What's happening is in order for them to feel okay they need you to feel not okay and then you are so not okay they 'leave'. But this is a game and when s/he saw you believed the game they changed tactics and it is very confusing for you.

As an outsider I cannot possibly know that this is the truth of the situation, but it is very much how it appears to me right now. In fact I think one might call it a form of 'emotional abuse' since it leaves you so confused.

"what work is best to practice to help me find some sense with all of my feelings and fears with Flo"
I got
Hewagram 62 lines changing 3 and 4 to Hexagram 2

You must look after your self above all else and frankly I don't feel you can trust this person. They may go back to exactly the same behaviours in making you feel bad all the time and at fault all the time. I'm not saying they are consciously doing this or a bad person but it does look like power games to me.

62 asks you be especially careful and cautious. Don't make any big promises or commitments just attend to what is in front of you to do. You must be careful because all of this is harmful to your mental well being and so eventually that can also impact on your physical health. So you must think what you would advise a very good friend to do in this situation. So 62 asks you to be especially cautious and pay close attention to what is said and so on. 62.3 stresses you must not automatically trust what s/he says. 62.4 asks you to step up to deal with things with full conscious responsibility and care. In other words this won't all go away by itself you have to meet the situation with great attention and caution.

As for hexagram 2 here are you able to find what supports you ? Before you ever met this person did you feel you could rely on yourself, did you trust yourself ? I think you need to find that place again where you are happy in your own skin.

So as for whether you should go back to this person I think you should be very cautious, take care of yourself and don't be rushed into anything.

 

[Windrell]

Dear Gretamar,
First of all, READ VERY CAREFULLY everything that Trojina writes to you. I agree with her 100%.
In the second place, in my opinion your questions to I Ching are too abstract to get a clear answer. If I were in your position, I would ask: "Please, describe the characteristics of my relationship with X".
Then, ask yourself: do I want this or not?
Afterwards search for psychological help to heal your feelings, to understand the whys, etc...

To me, 62 3,4>2, means one thing: DO NOT MOVE BACKWARDS TO HIM.

Thank you for this sharing, Be Powerful!