Hello please can you help me with this reading. 47 lines 2&5 changing to 16

[CarolineK]

Please can you help with this reading. I asked how to get on better with my grown up daughter. Thank you

 

[rosada]

Well you haven't given us much to work with here but the experience of being in the dark without guidance and feeling a bit resentful of not being helped is perfect for 47!

For starters 47. Oppression is about that stage of the journey where one is feeling exhausted and abused. Think Mother Teresa and her experience of being called to her work by God but then not feeling His presence as she trudged on continuing to being true to her calling but feeling so very alone. The caution in this hexagram is that one must refrain from being resistant when finally a breakthrough comes. So perhaps in receiving this hexagram as a response to your question about your relationship with your daughter you are first of all being reassured that the love and connection between you is real and this phase you are going through is part of the process.
16. Enthusiasm describes how one single person or thought leads to another until a pattern emerges. It talks about the generations connecting even including ancestors who have passed on. I wonder if your family history is part of the issue here. Like to improve the relationship with your daughter consider that the core issues may go way far back?

16. Enthusiasm also has to do with music.

 

[CarolineK]

Oh thank you so

Well you haven't given us much to work with here but the experience of being in the dark without guidance and feeling a bit resentful of not being helped is perfect for 47!

For starters 47. Oppression is about that stage of the journey where one is feeling exhausted and abused. Think Mother Teresa and her experience of being called to her work by God but then not feeling His presence as she trudged on continuing to being true to her calling but feeling so very alone. The caution in this hexagram is that one must refrain from being resistant when finally a breakthrough comes. So perhaps in receiving this hexagram as a response to your question about your relationship with your daughter you are first of all being reassured that the love and connection between you is real and this phase you are going through is part of the process.
16. Enthusiasm describes how one single person or thought leads to another until a pattern emerges. It talks about the generations connecting even including ancestors who have passed on. I wonder if your family history is part of the issue here. Like to improve the relationship with your daughter consider that the core issues may go way far back?

Enthusiasm also has to do with music.

Oh thank you so much that’s really helpful! Yes I realise I didn’t give much background —sorry. But actually everything you’ve said is really really helpful.

My daughter had a series of unfortunate physical accidents and low periods.

My reaction was to pay for her to have physio or recently cranial osteopathy after these events to help her physically and emotionally. But I it’s interpreted as fretting and being over mothering. You may also be right about the ancestral influence -perhaps having not had consistent help or input from my mum maybe I am overdoing it with my daughter….thank you again

 

[rosada]

47. 2
"Oppressed while at meat and drink" You are doing everything you can for your daughter yet you still are hard on yourself wishing you could do more.
"Scarlet sashes come from all directions." Lots of information, needs, demands coming in and you feel you should respond, handle everything that comes up but it's more...
"Fruitful to use thank offerings and oblations". Small gestures are sufficient to keep the love connection open.
"Setting out to bring order: pitfall, no mistake." It's not wrong to want to speed things up but you can only do what you can do. Don't try to be Supermom.

47.5
"Nose cut, feet cut, oppressed by the crimson sashes." Perhaps a reference your daughter's medical treatment and a frustration with the doctors not being able to make her all better as quickly as you would like?
"Joy comes softly" Patience, things are going to improve.
"It furthers one to make offerings and libations." I see this as specifically saying it's fine to help your daughter with the expenses and other things you are doing to help her. Just recognize you are not required to push the river. Take things one day at a time.

16. "The ancient kings made music in order to honor merit and offered it with splendor to the supreme deity inviting their ancestors to be present." I'd take this literally. Play upbeat music when you're together and just feel good to be alive! (I recommend Motown'sGreatestHits on youtube. That'll bring in the ancestors!)

 

[CarolineK]

Oh tha

47. 2
"Oppressed while at meat and drink" You are doing everything you can for your daughter yet you still are hard on yourself wishing you could do more.
"Scarlet sashes come from all directions." Lots of information, needs, demands coming in and you feel you should respond, handle everything that comes up but it's more...
"Fruitful to use thank offerings and oblations". Small gestures are sufficient to keep the love connection open.
"Setting out to bring order: pitfall, no mistake." It's not wrong to want to speed things up but you can only do what you can do. Don't try to be Supermom.

47.5
"Nose cut, feet cut, oppressed by the crimson sashes." Perhaps a reference your daughter's medical treatment and a frustration with the doctors not being able to make her all better as quickly as you would like?
"Joy comes softly" Patience, things are going to improve.
"It furthers one to make offerings and libations." I see this as specifically saying it's fine to help your daughter with the expenses and other things you are doing to help her. Just recognize you are not required to push the river. Take things one day at a time.

16. "The ancient kings made music in order to honor merit and offered it with splendor to the supreme deity inviting their ancestors to be present." I'd take this literally. Play upbeat music when you're together and just feel good to be alive! (I recommend Motown'sGreatestHits on youtube. That'll bring in the ancestors!

47. 2
"Oppressed while at meat and drink" You are doing everything you can for your daughter yet you still are hard on yourself wishing you could do more.
"Scarlet sashes come from all directions." Lots of information, needs, demands coming in and you feel you should respond, handle everything that comes up but it's more...
"Fruitful to use thank offerings and oblations". Small gestures are sufficient to keep the love connection open.
"Setting out to bring order: pitfall, no mistake." It's not wrong to want to speed things up but you can only do what you can do. Don't try to be Supermom.

47.5
"Nose cut, feet cut, oppressed by the crimson sashes." Perhaps a reference your daughter's medical treatment and a frustration with the doctors not being able to make her all better as quickly as you would like?
"Joy comes softly" Patience, things are going to improve.
"It furthers one to make offerings and libations." I see this as specifically saying it's fine to help your daughter with the expenses and other things you are doing to help her. Just recognize you are not required to push the river. Take things one day at a time.

16. "The ancient kings made music in order to honor merit and offered it with splendor to the supreme deity inviting their ancestors to be present." I'd take this literally. Play upbeat music when you're together and just feel good to be alive! (I recommend Motown'sGreatestHits on youtube. That'll bring in the ancestors!)

oh thank you so much again! The detail is very helpful. It all looked bit bleak & unpleasant to me in the mood I was in this morning - but your explanations of the lines do ring so true & I feel much lighter & brighter & more inclined to do the music thing! Thank you again!

 

[Liselle]

My reaction was to pay for her to have physio or recently cranial osteopathy after these events to help her physically and emotionally. But I it’s interpreted as fretting and being over mothering.

Who's saying you're fretting and over-mothering? You, your daughter, the doctors, other people?

The reading might be trying to draw a fine line.

Making sure she gets treatment for her injuries - this seems just plain good. Line 2 says,
"Fruitful to use thank-offerings and oblations. Setting out to bring order: pitfall, no mistake."

"Thank-offerings and oblations" - helping her, paying for treatment. Definitely not a mistake. But there might still be some pitfall lurking around, as maybe you're finding out.

Line 2 by itself changes to 45: making a big effort, bringing your best. Every bit of 45's oracle encourages it:
Gathering, creating success.
With the king’s presence, there is a temple.
Fruitful to see great people, creating success.
Constancy bears fruit.
Using great sacrificial animals: good fortune.
Fruitful to have a direction to go.

47.5 is similar but not exactly the same, and it's from a different place. It changes to hexagram 40, release, liberation, cutting the knot.

Line text:
Nose cut, feet cut.
Oppressed by the crimson sashes.
Then moving slowly brings release.
Fruitful to use offerings and oblations.

Things have progressed from "confined while drinking and feasting" (a minor disruption at dinner time) to a more serious intrusion. Freeman Crouch (Hilary's review, paperback, Kindle edition) says it means the guests were treated so nicely that now they won't leave. You don't want to (or can't) turn on them viciously and order them out of your house, but you do have to nudge them gently.

Which is what 40's oracle says. 40 is the step of change, line 5's individual relating hexagram, so it will be the protagonist's subjective point of view.
Release.
Fruitful in the west and south.
With no place to go,
To turn round and come back is good fortune.
With a direction to go,
Daybreak, good fortune.

As long as what you're doing has "a direction to go" - keep going. But when it doesn't, "turn round and come back."

I don't know who's point of view all of this is from: yours, your daughter's, other people's.

But I think the reading is encouraging a happy medium and some pulling back.

 

[CarolineK]

Who's saying you're fretting and over-mothering? You, your daughter, the doctors, other people?

The reading might be trying to draw a fine line.

Making sure she gets treatment for her injuries - this seems just plain good. Line 2 says,
"Fruitful to use thank-offerings and oblations. Setting out to bring order: pitfall, no mistake."

"Thank-offerings and oblations" - helping her, paying for treatment. Definitely not a mistake. But there might still be some pitfall lurking around, as maybe you're finding out.

Line 2 by itself changes to 45: making a big effort, bringing your best. Every bit of 45's oracle encourages it:
Gathering, creating success.
With the king’s presence, there is a temple.
Fruitful to see great people, creating success.
Constancy bears fruit.
Using great sacrificial animals: good fortune.
Fruitful to have a direction to go.

47.5 is similar but not exactly the same, and it's from a different place. It changes to hexagram 40, release, liberation, cutting the knot.

Line text:
Nose cut, feet cut.
Oppressed by the crimson sashes.
Then moving slowly brings release.
Fruitful to use offerings and oblations.

Things have progressed from "confined while drinking and feasting" (a minor disruption at dinner time) to a more serious intrusion. Freeman Crouch (Hilary's review, paperback, Kindle edition) says it means the guests were treated so nicely that now they won't leave. You don't want to (or can't) turn on them viciously and order them out of your house, but you do have to nudge them gently.

Which is what 40's oracle says. 40 is the step of change, line 5's individual relating hexagram, so it will be the protagonist's subjective point of view.
Release.
Fruitful in the west and south.
With no place to go,
To turn round and come back is good fortune.
With a direction to go,
Daybreak, good fortune.

As long as what you're doing has "a direction to go" - keep going. But when it doesn't, "turn round and come back."

I don't know who's point of view all of this is from: yours, your daughter's, other people's.

But I think the reading is encouraging a happy medium and some pulling back.

Thank you so much Liselle. That’s very encouraging and very well explained. For some reason I was struggling to see the answer as relevant to my question but your analysis is really helped. The ‘fretting and overmothering’ is really my daughters attitude. She doesn’t seem to like me thinking ‘she always needs fixing’ so yes I guess some pulling back and a happy medium needed on my part -though my offers will always be there if she wants. Yesterday she contacted me nicely and said she’d not meant to sound cross. So things feel less difficult. Thank you again

 

[CarolineK]

Thank you so much Liselle. That’s very encouraging and very well explained. For some reason I was struggling to see the answer as relevant to my question but your analysis is really helped. The ‘fretting and overmothering’ is really my daughters attitude. She doesn’t seem to like me thinking ‘she always needs fixing’ so yes I guess some pulling back and a happy medium needed on my part -though my offers will always be there if she wants. Yesterday she contacted me nicely and said she’d not meant to sound cross. So things feel less difficult. Thank you again

Just a small extra point on the aptness of the iching -she first hit her face & head when knocked down by a bike then badly hurt her ankle due to a stair fall then cut her neck with window glass!! So perhaps a reference to nose & feet bloodied’ so to speak !

 

[Liselle]

That is a lot of mishaps, my goodness.

Glad things are improving. Also wonder if part of her grumpiness might just be frustration with the situation, if you see what I mean. Still, a happy medium seems good.

 

[CarolineK]

That is a lot of mishaps, my goodness.

Glad tbngs

That is a lot of mishaps, my goodness.

Glad tbngs

I know - over about 1 year but still!
Thank you again I appreciate it