Help with a question

[heymau]

Hi guys,

I'm new to I Ching and I am searching for interpretations on my problem.

I asked a question regarding my future with the one I love, the answer came back 7.2 The Army changing into 2 The Receptive.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

M.

 

[willowfox]

Perhaps he will marry you.

 

[dobro p]

Haven't yet figure out why WF says 'he', but in the meantime I'll say that 7.2 is sort of 'three times yes' regarding the question you're asking. Which is the Yi's dramatic way of saying yes he's okay in the future. And maybe even now. Even if he's 'she'. lol

 

[heymau]

Willowfox, Dobro, thanks alot for your help.

The whole picture is that we've been together for almost two years, he's 4 years younger (Willowfox was right and he's scared of commitment- we're separated now, the third time this year, because he panicked again.. The first two times there was another girl involved , but we got over that- I hope..

Our connection is very strong, even after all this, but he's panicking every time he feels we are too connected. He takes himself very seriously, he's all into I Ching, but I don't know the answers he gets for his questions

I asked the question whether we have a future together (as in a real relationship and possibly more) because I feel there's more between us than all the breakups and his frustration or any other girl..

Thank you for your time and interest in helping me.

 

[kitsune]

I don't think it's about marriage. Army deals with discipline and Receptive is a no go. Receptive says to drop what you are doing and follow the master, not take the lead. Army deals with discipline and those 3 decorations might be the 3 times you broke up. It might say that you tried to take action 3 times, but the advice seems to be being receptive.
Maybe you should ask again, or another question to see what the I Ching replies.

 

[heymau]

I don't think it's about marriage either, thank you. Nor any other connection anymore.
Drop what I'm doing, yes; dropped everything, he's no longer part of my life as far as I'm concerned.
I won't ask this question again; the answer I got back regarding the present situation was clear and my future does not include him.
Thank you.

 

[kitsune]

That's a tough attitude. I was looking for posts regarding the hex army because i recently got hex 7 with line 1 and 2. I often found the same hex but in a different context. In my case it's that i should put the army in order, take the lead.
You seem pretty upset.

Receptive doesn't mean drop everything, it means be like water. What does the text say? Yin is soft but at the right time it can become very hard, Yang. It's the flow of Yin and Yang. I think it's in the text of the second hexagram. So don't act like a person at the 3rd yao, one that has gone beyond the mean, the center yao. Figure out how you can learn and benefit from this.

Look a little bit at the text of the 2nd yao. It's a leader, but even he listes to 6 in the 5th place, the prince. And the prince bestows merits 3 times upon him. You said that your bf panicked in all 3 occasions. There is always more to things than we can see. Am i making sense?

As a friend of mine always says, maybe some things don't work in a relationship, but don't let the things that do go to waste. And if you feel there is more between you than the breakups, maybe there's more than the concept of a relationship, of marriage. You never know how things are set out for you. Anyway, the I Ching teaches us that every event like this is a possibility to learn more about ourselves.

Remember Hex.2 . I would go back upon that. Maybe 7.2 is him, and he needs to take control and discipline of his life, set it in order. You never know who's hovering over him, as a teacher.

 

[kitsune]

I ended up doing what i dislike the most, giving advice on a hexagram that i don't fully understand. When i don't understand completly how the parts relate and work together, i try to take them individually and see what i can learn best. But i don't like when i read on the forum these kinds of answears. It's more about what you see in the hexagram, how it relates to you.
Hope this was useful, and sorry for interfering to much

Kit

 

[heymau]

Kitsune, thank you, you wrote beautiful things.

I wish things, as bad as they may have become, would be like water now. But his doings and his choices, which keep resurfacing, disturb the frail stillness of the water. And sometimes actions speak louder than words. I can’t keep lying to myself anymore.

Don’t get me wrong, he was the best thing that happened to me. This relationship was the richest place on earth for me; it taught me how to learn and understand, how to ask questions and find meanings. I tasted both bitter and sweet to the extreme, and it was great, it made me see so many lost perspectives.
I value the things that matter, I thought I could trust him with my friendship and more, but I see him as a threat now. Some relationships don’t stand a chance and my situation is not unique. I don't chase marriage and when I asked the question the situation was a little different, I still had hopes.
I no longer struggle for a place in his life as he doesn’t want me there. But I surely hope he’ll find what he’s looking for.

I’m not taking the lead of this lost relationship, I’m following the bits and pieced he left behind and trying find my way slowly. And what I’m doing now is trying to preserve the things that matter to me.

 

[heymau]

I appreciate your good intentions, it's great that you want to help, don't worry about it.
I hope eveything works out for you, I'm sorry I can't help you with your answer (I looked at your hexs), I'm still learning and barely managing to solve my own problems.

Thanks again and I'll keep reading.

 

[kitsune]

I would invest some time with the i ching right now, ask about my situation and what must i do to put my life in order. Although we want answears, here and now, i sometimes feel like an infant that's trying to grasp big things. I'm sorry that things didn't work out the way it should have for you, i've been there. With some situations i stll feel that i've missed the point or didn't really learn anything. That's why i say i feel like a child, because a child doesn't have the knowledge or maturity to discern. We usually cry when we're overcome by emotions that we can't control or laugh if things are working our way. So i turn to the I Ching to learn, because unfortunately we tend to miss out on life lessons.

So right now you can't see a solution, or things being better. But take it as a break to learn, to mature yourself. Cultivate yourself as daoists say

 

[heymau]

Thank you very much Kitsune. I will certainly continue learning with the I Ching, you seem to be doing a great job for yourself

Take care. M.