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Hexagram 18.3.4.6 - 40 on dealing with relationship tiring debates

Sofocles

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Hello,

I asked the i-Ching on how to deal better with the argumentative/debative moments of my relationship, where me and my partner get involved in discussions about topics over text (never negative or against each other), that make me anxious because of some miscommunications (language/communication barriers), differences of opinion and a feeling that "he doesn't know much about this" and I need to teach him, or "correct him", which is frustrating, and also both me and him overthink and question things, which becomes tiring.

So because I get so desperate and tend to panic that this is never going to work because these feelings are a bit overwhelming (been friends for over a year but just dating recently), I wonder how to better deal with these discussions because I feel there is a way that I can deal with this better, get less irritated, since my impulse is to nitpick and discuss. So I wonder what I can do about it, how can I better my attitude.* (I also talked to him about this, btw. He doesn't feel the same anxiety as I do...)

So I got Hexagram 18 Corruption/Decay/Repairing what is Spoiled changing to 40, Liberation/Deliverance

Line 3 - "Setting right what has been spoiled by the father. There will be a little remorse. No great blame."
Line 4 - "Tolerating what has been spoiled by the father. In continuing one sees humiliation."
Line 6 - "He does not serve kings and princes, sets himself higher goals."

They say line 4 is "dominant" (which is a bit worrysome... feels a kind of dead-end entrapment). I kind of understand the lines somehow but I can take it in so many directions that is confusing. Last one seems pretty self-explanatory: knowing when to let go of petty arguments and just fly over it, see the big picture and move on from the blockage.

Well, any takes?

Thank you very much!

*I have had other situations recently where I found people that triggered this in me, more or less. So I know this quality is in me. Of course, depending on what's on the other side, that may be triggered in one way or another, so this person triggers a specific side of myself.
 
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Ichingtarot

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Sofocles, IMHO Hexagram 18 shows great success because you can see the problems in your debating technique so you can repair it.

Line 3 When discussing a different point of view "Because I said so!" isn't constructive.
Line 4 says this situation has been going on for a while now, even before this relationship. Are some topics "hot buttons" for you?
Line 6 says discussing politics or religion is a can of worms. Stick to more personal topics.

Hexagram 40 reinforces that anxiety and strife can be overcome.
 

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Agreeing with Ichingtarot here, just rephrasing it a bit…

The first two lines seem to describe your frustrations when you think he is wrong and your feeling of obligation to set him straight - 18.3 - and indeed that it would actually be inappropriate if you are his friend to let his misunderstandings go unquestioned - 18.4.

The last line “He does not serve kings and princes. Sets himself higher goals” seems to suggest you can better your attitude by not responding to this impulse. Remind yourself it’s not your job to correct him:

18.6 Not my circus. Not my monkeys.

40, Liberation is very encouraging for being able to get passed these impasses. Forgive him for not recognizing your wisdom and don’t engage…
 
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Sofocles

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Hello,

I wanted to come here and thank you for your answers. Firstly you eased my anxiety at the time with your takes. Thank you very much for that.

Regarding our problems, this has been fixed actually! Or, well, obviously it's an ongoing process, but I am definitely positive about it and much calmer! I have followed especially the:
it would actually be inappropriate if you are his friend to let his misunderstandings go unquestioned

I was feeling bad with myself for having to nitpick and be the annoying person, but, actually, we need to try to fix what is not working and this was actually good because this person was open to it and now makes a double effort to be way more clear and also double checking that he understands things well. We are getting to the heart of the miscommunications everytime.
I was also particularly irritated with the fact that "why is this person not as ready as me to discuss topic x,y,z.. why are they rushing" and gave in to an almost elitistic frustration that doesn't take me anywhere.

Which brings us to:
Line 4 says this situation has been going on for a while now, even before this relationship. Are some topics "hot buttons" for you?
Yes. There are hot topics for me, but with him even in not hot topics there was a general irritation based on the feeling that he was not taking things as seriously as I was, carefully or as informed as I was. And yes, I have issues from my past and a drive to be over investigating what people are saying because of manipulative people who were very eloquent but failed to make actual sense. Also, I found myself being unfair to him at least once (after my own mistake), and had an emotional outburst, so I'm also making my own effort to be patient and understand that I make mistakes too.
So yes things are much calmer now...

Thank you!
 
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It humiliating and it needs to stop, so go on your way and leave the relationship behind. Easy.
 

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