Hexagram 2.5 to 8 deep emotional connection

[Hexagramer]

Hi everyone,My sister is falling in love with this guy she met last year. She wanted to know if the two had a deep emotional bond and received 2.5 to 8. I have a hard time interpreting this one so any help would be appreciated!

 

[moss elk]

Have they spent much time together since they met last year?

I'm inclined to think that she has a strong liking for him. (hence this thread, and the advice of Yi to say, 'why don't you call him and see if he is interested?, and if he isn't, so be it.')

 

[Hexagramer]

They have spent time together on and off while collaborating on projects. She tells me that whenever he texts her, he always seems happy to hear from her and he makes up an excuse to have her send pictures of herself to him. He flirts with her every time they see eachother and when she calls him, he giggles like a schoolboy. Hence, she wanted to know what the IC is trying to say!

 

[rosada]

Curious how what appears to be a straight forward question becomes fuzzy when you stop and analyze it.
Just what is meant by "a deep emotional bond"? I assume your sister is wondering if the fellow has feelings for her and if their connection has a future but this question doesn't really ask that and the answer seems to only describe what a "deep emotional bond" might be. Line 2.5 > 8 describes responding to an influence so I see this as meaning that they are tuned into each other but it doesn't tell us if this influence extends beyond their work projects.

 

[Hexagramer]

Hi rosada,Deep emotional bond meaning, a kind of spiritual connection that seems to affect both of their emotions. She has described the feeling as if they light up the room when they are near eachother, he can sense what she is feeling intuitively and vice versa. When they are apart, she tells me that she thinks of him and all of a sudden he will text her.

 

[bradford]

I don't see what's unclear about that.

 

[Liselle]

I'm not following much on this thread, sorry.

2.5 says:
'Yellow lower garments.
From the source, good fortune.'

Granted I never know how to apply that, but, M.E., how are you getting 'why don't you call him and see if he is interested?, and if he isn't, so be it' from it? I'm probably being dense...

Isn't yellow said to signify "the mean," the middle ground? Hilary says in her commentary it's the color of the Chinese soil (fitting for hexagram 2), and also is the color nobility wears. Bradford, you talk about simplicity, humility, respect, dignity...

Wait - M.E., maybe you're not getting "call him" from the line directly - are you saying the line suggests doing the simple, practical thing, which to us might mean phone him and ask?

The relating hexagram 8 can mean "bond" (what you naturally belong with or are bonded to).

M.E., I can see the fan yao in your comment:

'A demonstration of seeking union:
The king uses three beaters,
Lets the game in front go.
The city people are not coerced.
Good fortune.'

Are you (M.E.) saying the fan yao / relating hexagram might represent the other person?


Oh - added - Bradford, it might be perfectly clear to you . Could you maybe explain a little, pretty please?

(Now watch Brad explain, and then it'll be perfectly obvious and we'll all go "...oh. Right.")

 

[rosada]

I see 2.5 as describing someone responding to an influence so that would fit with the sister's reaction to this fellow but it doesn't tell us if he experiences a similar response. I had a friend who worked as a teacher's aide in a classroom. It seemed as if the principal was constantly finding reasons to drop in and they shared lots of witty repartee and lots of good ideas that resulted in some very successful class projects. After months of these sort of carryings on she wondered if he didn't feel the energy too and when was he going to do something about it? He finally made his move - he announced to the world that he and the class teacher were in love and two months later they were married! Now I only heard this story from my friend, I didn't consult the I Ching or get 2.5 as a description of her situation, but I think of it when I read your post here. Certainly your sister and the fellow she's working with share a connection but just because she responds to him doesn't tell us his motivation or where he wants this to go.
This is the problem with questions phrased to be answered with "yes" or "no". The I Ching can only give us a picture of a situation and each hexagram can be interpreted both ways. So it seems the I Ching is saying, "Here is a picture of your sister's situation - she responds to his influence." Perhaps it could even be seen as saying, "They respond to each other." The problem is that while this answer seems to be a "yes" it doesn't reveal just how deep is this "deep emotional bond". Obviously she is wanting to know if he cares for her as more than a friendly co-worker and I don't think you can get that from this answer.

 

[rosada]

It occurs to me that maybe i am the one who is off here. I am assuming she wants to know if he cares for her and will it lead to a relationship beyond co-workers, but maybe that is me going to far out on a limb. Perhaps she is just wanting to know if he feels the buzz too. Well, we know how tricky it can be to ask the I Ching what another person is feeling but I've found that while the answers we get to such questions don't always prove to be accurate, they can give us a clue for how to act in the moment. So while we can't really know if he is also aware of an unusual intunement, I think the I Ching is encouraging her to assume that this connection does exist. The answer still doesn't tell us what she can now do about it and certainly the Fan Yao, 8.5, advises she not impose of the connection, yet it does reassure her she's not delusional!

 

[moss elk]

M.E., how are you getting 'why don't you call him and see if he is interested?, and if he isn't, so be it' from it? I'm probably being dense...

I made a mistake, please disregard my post.
(From memory I answered, and reversed the reading.)
Apologies everyone.

 

[rosada]

Thanks, Moss. Yeah, 2.5 calls for - in Wilhelm's words - "the utmost discretion."

 

[Hexagramer]

Hi everyone, thank you for all of your responses it’s really helping me to interpret this situation for her. And rosada, just to clarify, yes, the question was asked as, do they both “feel the buzz” in terms of a deep emotional connection. We definitely didn’t ask if they were going to get married or anything like that, for 2.5 to 8. But now that you did mention this, we decided to consult the IC again and asked if the two were going to form a relationship together or get married and received 28.2 to 31. It’s funny, because my sister is about 4 years younger than him and he’s almost 40 yrs old. The line about an older man taking a young wife pretty much confirms they’re going to be together? What do y’all think?

 

[ariel13]

Hi Hexagramer,

Any update on this? Funny enough I've gotten that line 28.2 to 31 a couple of times about someone I'm interested in, but also once before about a guy I liked who actually had a girlfriend (younger than me). Weirdly then I cast again a week or so later, and the 5th line of 28 appeared, which talks about the withered willow taking a younger husband. It turned out the guy was in an open relationship with the younger one and decided to start seeing my friend who was about 4 years is senior. Nothing to do with me at all!!! doh