hexagram 37.6 to 63

[Lettuce]

i asked 2 qus relating to my present situation. the back story - i met someone whilst abroad through a friend. we hit it off instantly. We kept in contact and he made plans to move to the UK. it was all done in haste and the wrong decision. it was too big a move for him which i agree on. with the distance it felt like it was best to just stop communication. and not pursue it further. in hindsight this may have been a bit rash. we parted on good terns. I somehow feel we didn’t give this a chance and maybe if we continued communication and had no fixed plans there could be a chance for us in the future. i may just be being unrealistic.

it is his birthday in a few days and i thought about sending him a short birthday message. just to put the feelers out with no pressure.

I received 37.6 to 63
i am stumped on this one. it feels positive to connect hence ‘making an impression’


He may just not be interested in continuing communication and don’t want to push this if he is not interested.

i asked if he would like to reconnect and i received 58 unchanging .

This seems to suggest he wouldn’t mind hearing from me. maybe but in a romantic way but he would be open to communicating

Any help would be appreciated

 

[rosada]

I suggest sending a card. It wont be quickly forgotten like a text message - it will make an impression.
63. After Completion does sound like an ending but perhaps it means that even so - even if things don’t start up again - sending this card would be good for you just for your own sense of closer. I mean you’ll be able to say then, “Well at least I tried.”
58. Also emphasizes back and forth communication. Unchanging here makes me think he wont reach out to you unless you do something first. Like he’s neutral to the idea of a relationship.

 

[Lettuce]

Thanks Rosada for the response! Your interpretation of 58 unchanging sounds accurate as i also got 2.5 to 8 for if he will contact me which sounds pretty passive. I want to keep it very light so might just send a text and if he doesn’t reply it will speak volumes.

i’ll keep you posted if i do end up sending a message

 

[Lettuce]

So i sent him a birthday message. He replied back immediately thanking me and said he has a quiet and peaceful day on his own and he hoped i was well.
The next day i sent him a message suggesting we keep in contact without any grand plans to see if he was interested in maintaining the connection.
I asked ‘will he reply’ i received 9.6 to 5

Is it saying i have done all i can and the ball is in his court. I should give it a rest now and just go about my daily life and what will be will be .

Does anyone have anything else to add

 

[carlosyung]

So i sent him a birthday message. He replied back immediately thanking me and said he has a quiet and peaceful day on his own and he hoped i was well.
The next day i sent him a message suggesting we keep in contact without any grand plans to see if he was interested in maintaining the connection.
I asked ‘will he reply’ i received 9.6 to 5

Is it saying i have done all i can and the ball is in his court. I should give it a rest now and just go about my daily life and what will be will be .

Does anyone have anything else to add

I agree with your interpretation. "You did what you had to. Now it's settled and there is nothing left to do". Moreover, the relating hex is awaiting/anticipation.
And yet, if I had to determine what Yi was replying, the answer would be: no. He won't reply. But please do an update!

 

[rosada]

I don’t think I have a clear handle on 9.6. Would people care to dissect it line by line?

The rain comes. There is rest.

This is due to the lasting effect of character.

Perseverance brings the woman into danger.

The moon is nearly full.

If the superior man persists, misfortune comes.

And then this all changes to
5. Waiting
If you are sincere, you have light and success.

Perseverance brings good fortune.

It furthers one to cross the great water.

Clouds rise up to heaven.

The superior man is joyous and of good cheer.

In a jumbled sort of way it seems these hexagrams are about giving it all a rest but at the same time sort of waiting, hoping for something more. Or does “Perseverance brings the woman into danger” mean waiting is not a good thing??

 

[carlosyung]

I don’t think I have a clear handle on 9.6. Would people care to dissect it line by line?

Disclaimer: I do not know Chinese! Bradford already has done what I'm doing much better.

既 雨
Already rain

既 處
Already settled (notice 既 repeating)

尚 德 載
Value virtue conveyed ("This is due to the lasting effect of character." somehow!)

婦 貞 厲
Woman perseverance severe

月 幾 望
Moon approaches full

君 子 征 凶
Noble young-one campaign inauspicious

Thus Bradford's translation makes more sense to me:

It has already rained, it is already settled.
What had to happen, happened, and we are now in the aftermath.

Value the merits already conveyed.
Cherish what you experienced from the situation.

The woman’s persistence is difficult
as the moon approaches full
I don't know why "as"... I guess moon and femineity is related, but couldn't it be that the next line is related to the full moon? Again, I am no sinologist, but that was what Wilhelm thought, too.

The noble young one’s expedition fails
Probably similar to "Not worthwhile to cross the great river."

Looking at the trigrams, heaven (Qian) remains heaven but now the wind (Xun) changes to water (Kan). The dry air becomes moist. The white, thin clouds become thick and heavy with H20. But seeing the line of "it has already rained", perhaps it is the other direction. It has rained and now the sky has nothing but air, no water. I saw a Herman Mesker video where he cites an old Chinese divination text. This said that the primary hexagram turning into the relating one is equal to the relating hex turning into the primary. Something on those lines (pun not intended). I am not particularly sure how to work the relating hexagram into a reading, as basic as it might be. Is it the future, is it my mentality, my current situation, a possible future? I don't know.

 

[Lettuce]

i’ll keep you all updated!

 

[Lettuce]

He hasn’t replied as yet and from other readings i have done i am quite sure he will not. If i am honest with myself this was never a very solid connection from the beginning.

I agree the matter is already settled. It is over for him. The 5 is just reflecting me waiting for him to reply

I asked if he would message me and i got 2.1.4.5 to 17

These are two passive hexes that show reserve as well as the changing lines so it’s pretty clear to me he will not message me

2.1 things continue as they have been (no contact)
2.4 he doesn’t reply, keeps quiet
2.5 shows reserve
17 rests, maybe puts this matter to rest. nothing more to invest.

 

[hilary]

I am not particularly sure how to work the relating hexagram into a reading, as basic as it might be. Is it the future, is it my mentality, my current situation, a possible future? I don't know.

I find a good starting point almost every time is that this is your mentality, what it's all about for you. Like Lettuce said -

The 5 is just reflecting me waiting for him to reply

Yes, this. You've got a good intuitive sense of your reading.

In a jumbled sort of way it seems these hexagrams are about giving it all a rest but at the same time sort of waiting, hoping for something more. Or does “Perseverance brings the woman into danger” mean waiting is not a good thing??

It is quite striking/ odd that 9.6 with its relating hexagram of Waiting starts off with 'already... already…,' isn't it? Perhaps we could think of this simply, like a gardener: you've been waiting for it to rain, now it's rained, and you're waiting for germination. You can't hurry that along: sitting staring anxiously at the soil won't help, but then nor will doing another rain dance or six just to make sure.

So is 'waiting' a good thing? It depends (helpful, I know...). I think this is one of those cases where the relating hexagram shows a theme and something to grapple with. What will you wait for now? How will you reach out to it and invite it? Which would be a good river to cross?

Lettuce - I know this is a lot easier to say than to do - but have you thought of asking about yourself instead of him?

 

[Lettuce]

in all honesty i think this reading is giving me advice instead of a prediction. My initial instinct was, i have done all i can for now (9.6) now give it a rest and wait in good cheer (5) . It seems very sound and wise advice!

Thank you Hilary for your very helpful post

 

[Lettuce]

I don’t think I have a clear handle on 9.6. Would people care to dissect it line by line?

The rain comes. There is rest.

This is due to the lasting effect of character.

Perseverance brings the woman into danger.

The moon is nearly full.

If the superior man persists, misfortune comes.

And then this all changes to
5. Waiting
If you are sincere, you have light and success.

Perseverance brings good fortune.

It furthers one to cross the great water.

Clouds rise up to heaven.

The superior man is joyous and of good cheer.

In a jumbled sort of way it seems these hexagrams are about giving it all a rest but at the same time sort of waiting, hoping for something more. Or does “Perseverance brings the woman into danger” mean waiting is not a good thing??

i think you are spot on here Rosada but i will keep you all posted. All very accurate so far!

 

[Lettuce]

So Hilary, I took your advice and asked Yi a question with me at the centre. 'Should I hold any hope regarding a future for me and x'

I received 25.2 to 10 having looked on Wikiwing some peoples experiences have been along the lines of 'cutting one's losses' and then there's harvest in a fresh direction. It seems to be giving me advice to disentangle myself from this person and move onwards and upwards. As I write it it is kind of what I want to do anyway, free from consuming my time and energy on empty imaginings.

Does anyone have anything else they could add please or am I on the right track.

BTW said person above still has not replied to my message

 

[hilary]

advice to disentangle myself from this person and move onwards and upwards

That sounds about right. Also, once you get out of the tangle of will he?/ won't he? / how does he feel? /what is he thinking now? (and so on!) you might have more of chance to recognise your own feelings: what you want, on a deep level, the full intensity of your own desires and what you're looking for...

 

[Henry Zahir]

i asked 2 qus relating to my present situation. the back story - i met someone whilst abroad through a friend. we hit it off instantly. We kept in contact and he made plans to move to the UK. it was all done in haste and the wrong decision. it was too big a move for him which i agree on. with the distance it felt like it was best to just stop communication. and not pursue it further. in hindsight this may have been a bit rash. we parted on good terns. I somehow feel we didn’t give this a chance and maybe if we continued communication and had no fixed plans there could be a chance for us in the future. i may just be being unrealistic.

it is his birthday in a few days and i thought about sending him a short birthday message. just to put the feelers out with no pressure.

I received 37.6 to 63
i am stumped on this one. it feels positive to connect hence ‘making an impression’


He may just not be interested in continuing communication and don’t want to push this if he is not interested.

i asked if he would like to reconnect and i received 58 unchanging .

This seems to suggest he wouldn’t mind hearing from me. maybe but in a romantic way but he would be open to communicating

Any help would be appreciated

Its over, there is potential for more fun, but it will probably not happen since its 58 unchanging. There is somebody coming who has nice energy, give the new one a chance to show himself.

 

[Lettuce]

That sounds about right. Also, once you get out of the tangle of will he?/ won't he? / how does he feel? /what is he thinking now? (and so on!) you might have more of chance to recognise your own feelings: what you want, on a deep level, the full intensity of your own desires and what you're looking for...

i think you are spot on here. Thank you for highlighting that. sorry for the late response as didn’t realise anyone responded to this post!