Hoping

[kdedeaux4]

Really hoping I can get some good insight here.... I know it's difficult to help interpret IC without knowing the specific question, but suffice to say I'm really struggling and torn and conflicted, etc, etc, etc.... All sorts of ridiculous garbage which conflicts with me on every level and I'm having a horrible time trying to get through it!

Response: Hexagram 2, lines 1 and 2, changing to hex 19. I've looked up some interpretations, but don't seem to be in a place to connect the dots or receive the message or something.... And I'm really hoping to get some input and thoughts on this response?
Thank you:bows:
~namaste~

 

[mrmorrow]

Something unfavourable has reached a crirical point over a period of time .Perhaps you did not notice the signs until it was upon you..I see the outcome as favourable if you look beyond your own cirlce of activity for help.Perhaps you just may be through the worst.

 

[kdedeaux4]

Mrmorrow,

Thank you for your response! It's so nice to hear something hopeful, like maybe I'm "through the worst of it"? I'm so hoping and praying you are right about that ! And just to let you know, your insight is accurate with several points you've made, so that gives me the hope that you might be right about the rest!!

Many thanks to you:bows:
~Krista

 

[casmael]

yo. two things struck me: 1) the I ching gives no auspice of good or bad fortune with line one, suggesting that it is fundamental: a natural process, of no moral standing. 2) moving lines suggest that the situation will not persist. approach always struck me as a 'hopeful' - if temporary - hexagram to move to, implying a time of action. hope that is mildly useful

 

[Trojina]

Really hoping I can get some good insight here.... I know it's difficult to help interpret IC without knowing the specific question, but suffice to say I'm really struggling and torn and conflicted, etc, etc, etc.... All sorts of ridiculous garbage which conflicts with me on every level and I'm having a horrible time trying to get through it!

Response: Hexagram 2, lines 1 and 2, changing to hex 19. I've looked up some interpretations, but don't seem to be in a place to connect the dots or receive the message or something.... And I'm really hoping to get some input and thoughts on this response?
Thank you:bows:
~namaste~

Does look like a very natural process, as Casmael said..you don't need to do much at all, just follow the path laid out before you...and things... grow...

others may see it another way

 

[diamanda]

The way it sounds to me, do not ignore the signs.
"You know what these signs mean", so heed them, and stop them.
And go about your own business (2:2, and 19).

 

[Trojina]

The way it sounds to me, do not ignore the signs.
"You know what these signs mean", so heed them, and stop them.
And go about your own business (2:2, and 19).

You can't stop the ice coming. I've known 2.1 mean the approach of inevitable death. Hex 2 is receptive, passive, doesn't stop anything..theres nothing to stop...its coming anyway

 

[kdedeaux4]

The bad news

Casmael, Diamanda, Trojan:
Thank you:bows: I've reflected on the insight(s) you've offered and then looked back to my notes at my precise question.... I was wondering what's to become of me if I don't find a way to shake all of this and it seems this was indeed what I feared to be true in my heart before I even asked IC.

You can't stop the ice coming. I've known 2.1 mean the approach of inevitable death. Hex 2 is receptive, passive, doesn't stop anything..theres nothing to stop...its coming anyway

I feel something "dying" inside me and I suppose that is why I feel a sense of desperation..as though I must cling to something, find some source of light and energy within me that might remain beyond this experience. Apparently I give too much credence to Dylan Thomas and do not want to go gentle into that good night!!
....I'm just beginning to fully understand that my challenge here is to do just that and find some way to look at this "death" of these parts of myself as positive changes...

Our cells die and regenerate constantly...why on earth would I think I could fight this process from happening on any other level?
Oh gosh, well if this isn't just the most upbeat and joyful post ever
Anyway...your interpretation help is very much appreciated!
~Namaste~

 

[Trojina]

Well Diamanda is right about the ice being a warning but i feel its more a warning of the inevitable.

Actually I think 2>19 is a lovely reading, everythings okay in 2.2 . this isn't a reading of struggle IMO

 

[diamanda]

Trojan i can see what you mean, and the way you put it into words makes so much sense.
I had never thought of the word 'inevitable' but now that i hear it, it does sound so true.
The notion of something not-so-nice approaching in the future is also contained in 19.

Somehow 19 sounds like a summary of both 2:1 and 2:2.

In 19 we are advised to work hard now that we can, so as to arm against what's coming.
The difference i see in 2:1 and 2:2 is that the order is reversed.
Something not-so-nice is ante portas, and then we need to go about our work.
Till we come full circle to 19, work some more, in order to arm ourselves again.
'Work' and 'prepare' and 'arm' not as in 'struggle', but as in being prudent and efficient.

 

[kdedeaux4]

So I asked...

To help me prepare or accept or whatever I need to be doing, I asked IC this question: Please give me more insight into what aspect of this is the inevitable in order to help me prepare:
Response: 6.1.2.3 to 13
6/Conflict: Yes...although I’ve shut all the doors on the outer conflicts and remain only in conflict inside myself. Of course, I’m sure it’s all still there on some level as nothing was really resolved, but my only recent “activity” in this is that I’ve walked away and refused to engage in any outside conflicts and other than my posts here, I don't discuss any of this with anyone.
Line 1: Indicates the possibility of gossip involved – yes, but it’s difficult for me to imagine that I’ve walked away from everything and every one and they’re still gossiping? (This is not impossible to imagine mind you, but difficult!)
Line 2: Think I'm already following this advice (walked away from the whole mess).
Line 3: Seems like this is telling me that I’m doing the right thing but that someone might steal the credit? Not sure how this is possible or what it means, but I’m not looking for any “credit” for anything here anyway… Just want peace restored to my life and mind.
Resulting in hex 13:
To quote Lise’s wonderful interpretation:
“We humans can understand each other because we are of the same kind. Same goes for every category of creatures. And in turn we can classify the world around us because things don’t come in single units, they come in kinds and classes and similarities. Thanks to that we can find order in what otherwise would seem chaos.
We love or fight, help or hate, what looks like us. We can recognize who feels similar, and who is clearly different. It is the base of social feelings and compassion but just as well of cliques and sects.”

I do understand what Lise says here about 13, but true to form for my personal IC readings, I’m not putting the bigger picture together. What does this mean all together? Yes, I’m very much the same as any one else and yet I've learned that I'm “clearly different” as well... very clearly different... So different in fact that it has brought only "chaos" and no "order" for many years now. I can’t imagine the inevitability of this situation is a fellowship with any of the people connected to this!? Gosh, I’ve experienced more feelings of kindness and understanding on this website in one post than I’ve experienced in years within the group of people connected with my current situation... (Thanks to all of you!)