How do you divine UFOs?

[solun]

On April 17 this year my mother and I saw something move over our car, with lights and panels on it from left to right while we were on the highway. It was about, well at one point, maybe 15 feet above us at a 45 degree angle to the driver side (my side). It traveled for a while at our speed, then slowly disappeared, seemed to have stopped or gone the other way. It was scary, I half don't believe it myself, but my mother saw it too, so ... and I couldn't stop and get out because it was so close and I couldn't look more closely because I was driving. Earlier that night I had seen some stationary lights in the constellation Leo, blinking on and off every ten to fifteen minutes as I was star gazing. I know what a satellite looks like, they move, this wasn't a satellite.
I have seen one other type of UFO before, not a flying saucer, more like a rotating cylindrical ember ...

Has anyone else here ever see one? What did the Yi say, did you consult it?
I did and got 56.3 and 35
The wanderer and progress

 

[meng]

Hi Solun,

I've had encounters when I first moved to the area. What they were, I can't say, but they were not anything conventionally known to civilians. Very unique aircraft.

56.3 sure can lend itself to some creative science fiction writing, and maybe non fiction too. LiSe's line 3 is interesting in this regard. Troops burning up their camp: possibly training recruits and maneuvers? Figuratively, it could be something like "covering their tracks". That could lend itself to cloaking technology and image projection etc. Just some thoughts.

There are those who make a psychic connection with the UFO phenomenon. That idea feels right to me on some level; maybe a 61 level. And maybe we are the pigs and fishes.

 

[mary f]

Solun, your reading is intriguing. I think you really saw "wanderers" from other worlds (56.3). 35 emphasizes: "The great image says: Brightness comes up above the earth..."

A friend and I saw something not long ago when we were in the beach at night. It had some strong colorful lights flying in circles pretty close to us (impossible to be an airplane, helicopter or similar). It came close to us twice and then faded.

I casted asking what would this be: 15:1 >> 36 - I still have doubts with this reading. What do you think? Bradford speaks about hyperbolic wax. I felt baffled. What do you think?

 

[solun]

Hi meng and mary,

It is possible (likely even) that there are earth aircraft we don't have knowledge of obviously, and there was a lot about this that reminded me of office cubicle design (gag!) - still I do believe that there are presences here from other worlds, even dimensions.
I am also wondering if it is possible to project holographic images from satellites onto the surface ... bet it is ..

What scared me about this was how close it was, I mean really close, like only 15 feet above us, that's practically overhead. There was nother car behind us some distance, and they slowed down considerably too, looked like with their heads bobbing around and talking to one another, they had seen something as well.

I have heard about the many sightings in South America, too. I checked on the internet and saw that there were other sightings in Illinois that evening. We're out in the middle of corn and soy fields here, much not planted yet due to flooding.

About Lu, the wanderer, to me it doesn't necessarily mean they are real or no, but that if there were something there, to proceed as you would among strangers anywhere. The third line I am definitely going to look into more.

Also, in keeping with the far-fetchedness of it all, there's an article written about galactic physics and the 2012 alignment that suggests we have been closer, more accessible to inner regions of the galaxy in terms of time space ... draw your own conclusions ...

 

[solun]

mary,
your reading of 15.1 and 36 are baffling to me too!

But I will say what I get out of both of these experiences and the following readings we got means to me that we should acknowledge it, and not react to it in any overt way, keeping true to what we know is our own inner light... just a guess

56.3 sure can lend itself to some creative science fiction writing, and maybe non fiction too. LiSe's line 3 is interesting in this regard. Troops burning up their camp: possibly training recruits and maneuvers? Figuratively, it could be something like "covering their tracks". That could lend itself to cloaking technology and image projection etc. Just some thoughts.

- meng

VERY interesting. thanks meng!

 

[meng]

Holographic images is what I had in mind for my "image projection" comment. There is a line of thought that holography is responsible for what what we experience in this dimensional "reality". Time travel could also make use of this relatively untapped resource. Solun, maybe you were visiting yourself from the future, and taking your mom for a drive. "Hey, mah, look, there's us 800 years ago! Wave!"

Mary, 15.1 has a special meaning in regard to extra-dimensional experiences, which I have found to be both a bit frustrating but also illuminating. It's like keeping a secret when you're busting at the seams to share it with others. You know if you tell others, they're not going to get it the same way you got it, so you spare yourself that tension, and just make it a personal experience.

 

[Sparhawk]

Speaking of UFO, although I don't follow what's been said too closely, by sheer coincidence, today I saw this newsbit about my native Uruguay and their "Blue Book" (sort of):

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0609/uruguay.php

 

[Tohpol]

56.3 > 35

Very interesting.

Nine in the third place means:
The wanderer's inn burns down.
He loses the steadfastness of his young servant.
Danger.

"A truculent stranger does not know how to behave properly. He meddles in
affairs and controversies that do not concern him; thus he loses his resting place. He treats his servant with aloofness and arrogance; thus he loses the man's loyalty. When a stranger in a strange land has no one left on whom he can rely, the situation becomes very dangerous."

There's alien (or ultraterrestrial i.e. dimensional) folklore that fits with the Wilhelm rendering in the above and which characterises a large percentage of these "visitors" as those that see the Earth and humanity as nothing more than real estate to be "harvested" in a variety of ways. Not a popular concept in New Age circles who see the "Aliens are coming to save us" as much more amenable.

There are stories of some species living in between dimensions and for whom the line of entropy dominates and informs their reality. Hence the need to replenish their "world" and species due to the natural law of diminishing returns. Who knows? Perhaps there are good and bad aliens out there where advancement doesn't necessarily mean "spiritual." This is only the yin-yang cycle after all. 56.3 seems very apt to me from that perspective.

For an excellent award-winning documentary on the UFO phenomena you can watch OUT OF THE BLUE for free on youtube.

Been seeing a lot of 56 recently as well as the memorizing threads focusing on 56 right now. Travelling and change.

On another topic I asked recently about the Air France plane that crashed into the Atlantic last week.

Now this is interesting as I had a gut feeling that there was something not natural about this event. And the authorities are still at a loss as to what happened. What appeared to me from the total system failure that it was sudden and final as though sourced from an external impact of some kind. Whether natural or man-made is the issue.

So, with this in mind I asked the Yi an received:

56.5 > 33

° Six in the fifth place means:
He shoots a pheasant.
It drops with the first arrow.
In the end this brings both praise and office.

Lightening? Experts say this is highly unlikely. A land to air missile? "Praise and office" to those who benefit from something?

I was doing research on another subject and I found this:

Key Figures in Global Battle Against Illegal Arms Trade Lost in Air France Crash
June 8th, 2009 (Sunday Herald)

Argentine campaigner Pablo Dreyfus and Swiss colleague Ronald Dreyer battled South American arms and drug trafficking.

AMID THE media frenzy and speculation over the disappearance of Air France’s ill-fated Flight 447, the loss of two of the world’s most prominent figures in the war on the illegal arms trade and international drug trafficking has been virtually overlooked.

Pablo Dreyfus, a 39-year-old Argentine who was travelling with his wife Ana Carolina Rodrigues aboard the doomed flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, had worked tirelessly with the Brazilian authorities to stem the flow of arms and ammunition that for years has fuelled the bloody turf wars waged by drug gangs in Rio’s sprawling favelas.

Also travelling with Dreyfus on the doomed flight was his friend and colleague Ronald Dreyer, a Swiss diplomat and co-ordinator of the Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence who had worked with UN missions in El Salvador, Mozambique, Azerbaijan, Kosovo and Angola. Both men were consultants at the Small Arms Survey, an independent think tank based at Geneva’s Graduate Institute of International Studies. The Survey said on its website that Dryer had helped mobilise the support of more than 100 countries to the cause of disarmament and development. [...]


When it comes to arms and drugs trafficking the two most lucrative sources of income for the black economy taking down a plane is never an issue, if the stakes are high enough.

Who knows?

Topal

 

[meng]

Who knows?

Not I. But your suspicions sound grounded to me, considering the time we're in.

On another note, you brought to light this possibility:

The wanderer's inn burns down.
He loses the steadfastness of his young servant.
Danger.

What if the alien's ship/inn was having trouble (burning down)? Losing the steadiness of a piece of gear? Danger, Wil Robinson!

 

[mary f]

mary,
your reading of 15.1 and 36 are baffling to me too!
But I will say what I get out of both of these experiences and the following readings we got means to me that we should acknowledge it, and not react to it in any overt way, keeping true to what we know is our own inner light... just a guess

Thanks Solun, it's an amazing perception .

I can see the same Meng sees (training recruits and maneuvers, hiding tracks). Incredible.

Mary 15.1 has a special meaning in regard to extra-dimensional experiences, which I have found to be both a bit frustrating but also illuminating. It's like keeping a secret when you're busting at the seams to share it with others. You know if you tell others, they're not going to get it the same way you got it, so you spare yourself that tension, and just make it a personal experience.

This is more or less how I've rationalized it, but your view is wider. I decided stop telling others. Good this issue has been brought.

 

[solun]

Solun, maybe you were visiting yourself from the future, and taking your mom for a drive. "Hey, mah, look, there's us 800 years ago! Wave!"

- meng

hilarious!! that is if you want to be around your mother for another 800 years or soo ....
naawww, I love you mom, forever ...really, I do (hearts icon goes here)


topal -
Astonishing! That these key figures were taken, in addition to all else - black box not found ... surprising they haven't come up with some sort of tracking device on them ... even a uniquely detectable substance ... whatever that might be...
but more especially, tragic, if not sinister

I always wondered how Minnesota Senator Paul Wellstone's plane crashed killing him (and another family member ) right before a key vote in congress (can't even remember what it was now, but I think it was related to our military involvement in the middle east) They are fairly sure it was due to weather, but there was another congress woman whose plane went down before a key issue was to be voted on. It's probably sad coincidence ... and then you do wonder ...

It is a changing world as we have seen, and theories abound
the holographic, or image projection you referred to meng could be used for cloaking I suspect as well, now that we have GPS technology, and more
there's so much that can morph into sci fi, but could just as well be real, as real as real gets anyway
I'm guessing there are dimensional shifts and cross overs, like you suggest with the time 'travel' so to speak

But what is the nature of their visit .... ?
Line three is scary, I don't understand it , how it applies, to me? to 'them'? both"? the situation? I like your read on their 'intention' and have seen some of the current lore out there ... it's amazing to consider some of it.

 

[Tohpol]

So, with this in mind I asked the Yi an received:

56.5 > 33

° Six in the fifth place means:
He shoots a pheasant.
It drops with the first arrow.
In the end this brings both praise and office.

Lightening? Experts say this is highly unlikely. A land to air missile? "Praise and office" to those who benefit from something?

Just a quick update on this. I thought further on the arms and drugs angle and after looking at the people involved, while still possible, it would be far easier to have taken them out individually and in far less dramatic circumstances. The incidences of aircraft being taken down due to corporate or government terrorism and/or narcotics usually involves light, smaller planes such as the cessna and with persons numbering no more than five to ten. Or indeed military aircraft. But a civilian airliner? Well, that might be less common.

Then the issue of meteorites, fireballs and asteroids. The suppression of some of the more serious incidences has long been in place but just recently is became official. That is to say, the reporting of serious incidents remains under cover but now even extends to minor ones.

See this article: Military Hush-Up: Incoming Space Rocks Now Classified

Now look again at 56.5 and Wilhelm's rendering...Seems spot on and consistent with the instant electrical /total system failure among many other anomalies.

Could this plane have been hit by a meteorite, Incidences of which are increasing yearly?

This writer offers compelling evidence to suggset this is so: What are they hiding? Flight 447 and Tunguska Type Events

Don't want to frighten the public....

Topal

 

[solun]

I wonder why they say lightening isn't likely? Our atmosphere and it's conditions are changing along with weather conditions. I think it's maybe just as likely that officials would try to mitigate these types of occurences informationally as anything else.
What if it had been leftover debris from something that had been in orbit? Can they account for every molecule of space waste that supposedly hits the earth when and where we say it will?
Whatever happened, it was super tragic. There are so many factors that can come into play, esp over large masses of water like the oceans. Wasn't it recently that a flocks of birds took down a plane that went onto the Hudson River where the pilot heroically got everyone out of the water .. ?

I still puzzle over what I saw on the highway that night. And half don't believe it myself. It's as if it were going to land on our car, or take us up into itself ... really annoying. I have tried to rationalize every other possibility ... a reflection in the window from the dome light-nope, it was not on and doesn't look like that ..... something traveling along the wires-no, they don't travel that fast and dont' have as large lights ... it's just a real mystery ... still can't believe it ....