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If i ask the exact same question for ecample - i should get the exact same reply?
What are good ways to test the yi jing ?
**** im asking this to people who belive the yi jing is a way to connect to a higher self and that the yi jing is a spirituasl thing - not meant for people who think its not spiritual but just a way to help the mind get a new way of thought and that the results you get are not cause of a spiritual process **
From Hex 4's judgement:
It is not I who seeks the young and inexperienced The young and inexperienced seek me The first consultation informs The second and third show disrespect Disrespect deserves no information
"testing' Yi may also be considered 'disrepectful'.
You have no hope of out smarting Yi.
Just use it in your every day life and see how it talks to you. You don't need to devise any tests indeed you cannot, you cannot test a vaster intelligence than your own except by simply consulting when you need to and seeing how the answers work for you or don't work for you.
It really makes no difference to the quality of the answers what anyone thinks the I Ching is. That is answers will come regardless of what you think of Yi as. The way you interpret can be affected by your view of what Yi is but not the actual answers that come..
if the answeres are not affected - than why i got different hexgrams for the exact same reply ?
about everyday life - im usually doing it with lighting incense (which makes my clothes and room smell ) , wearing white clothes , doing meditation before , using yarrow stalks all in all it takes an hour - the incesne was costly (now i ordered cheap in bulk) and my back hurts cause usually i get up every few minutes ... so it is an effort for me to do proper divinations - that is why i want to know im getting popper answers for the effort put in and since i dont do many propper divinations - so to check it daily is something i need motivation for and i would like to have some more faith in the yi jing - so would like to test it in some way that will give results faster (maybe in a few divinations rather than a few months or years)
yes i got the same hexgram for same question - why ? like i wrote above to test it
3 incense sticks - the smoke from them supose to break energy patterens in the room which supose to help somehow ... same with clothes - about yarrow stalks its more meditative the way its used and its connected to spirtual world also i understand the coins effect the results a bit unlike the yarrow - --- the stuff i write here are based upon my understanding of damo mitchell teachings about this subject
yes i got the same hexgram for same question - why ? like i wrote above to test it
I understand that the more in a meditative state you will get more accurate results (
.. i would assume most if not all people "test" the yi jing to some extent : you after very long time of using the yi jing have got to trust it after a long time - but not many people will start to use the yi jing and make a radical life change for example just becuase the yi jing told them that on the first read - most will need some good time to build trust in the yi jing readings
Sigh. I like to think I'm usually quite polite. And I wasn't trying to belittle you, just to indicate that I thought the idea of testing the Yi by asking the same question a few times in a row was ridiculous. Instead of getting hurt feelings about it, why not just try to reflect for a while on why that may not be the best approach to using an oracle?such a rude comment - i wonder if you even read what i wrote - i never said its a fraud i explained exactly what i mean im not testing the yi jing really but my ability to use it and to build trust in the advice i get so i can follow it more and get more from it ---- seems like you didnt even read my comments above or read them but didnt understand them --- and all this just furthers me from actually getting good helpful replies
I also recommend doing occasional daily readings in the morning as a way to become fluent with Yi. A general sort of question, like a weather report,
"what's up today?"
"what's important today?"
You'll likely learn what the lines mean,
what things Yi prioritizes, and have your mind blown away again and again.
Clarity,
Office 17622,
PO Box 6945,
London.
W1A 6US
United Kingdom
Phone/ Voicemail:
+44 (0)20 3287 3053 (UK)
+1 (561) 459-4758 (US).