I ching cards vs 6 Coins

[adamlau8899]

I practise with both, to get insights and further accuracy, 6 coins are desired. The card would not give you a reading that has transition. The transition from initial to final reading is essential in a thorough reading. And between the transition from the initial gua to the final qua had to be understood whether it will result in a positive or negative reading and the impacts. The transition needs to be examined to understand what are the impacts.

 

[my_key]

I agree.

 

[remod]

I practise with both, to get insights and further accuracy, 6 coins are desired. The card would not give you a reading that has transition. The transition from initial to final reading is essential in a thorough reading. And between the transition from the initial gua to the final qua had to be understood whether it will result in a positive or negative reading and the impacts. The transition needs to be examined to understand what are the impacts.

Sorry, which cards are you referring to?

I assume with "transition" you mean the one induced by the moving lines, correct?
If this is the case, all the cards I described in the various threads provide moving lines with either yarrow stalks or three coins probabilities.

In the case of the 64 cards deck, the method described here generates moving lines with probabilities very close to the three coins method.

With "6 coins" you mean the method described here on Clarity (and analyzed here)? That method provides exactly one moving line for each answer (with no possibility of zero or more than one moving line).
This means that for each hexagram there are only six possible relating hexagrams.
Did you develop a technique to get further insight from this fact?
Or is it a completely different 6 coins method?

 

[remod]

Oh, wait! Maybe you meant that you use a 64 cards deck and after having drawn the card for the response you toss six coins and use them to determine line by line if it's a moving one or not? (Say, head for moving and tail for stable line).

If that is the case, with this method there is a 50% probability that a line is a moving line (vs the 25% of the three coins or yarrow stalks methods) and each line has the same probability (25%) of being yin, yang, old yin, or old yang.
This is fully equivalent to the dutch sticks method.

Is that what you meant?

 

[remod]

I agree.

Did you get if he was referring to the 6 coin method or he was using the coins to determine the moving lines?

 

[my_key]

Did you get if he was referring to the 6 coin method or he was using the coins to determine the moving lines?

I'm agreeing with the importance of using both primary and relating hexagram to fully understand a reading.

The transition from initial to final reading is essential in a thorough reading. And between the transition from the initial gua to the final qua had to be understood whether it will result in a positive or negative reading and the impacts. The transition needs to be examined to understand what are the impacts.

beyond that I am lost in the pile of coins and cards.

 

[remod]

I'm agreeing with the importance of using both primary and relating hexagram to fully understand a reading.

Ah, ok! I do agree as well but I don't see how this is related to using cards ....

Nevermind. I know I'm a little bit strange in my search for alternative methods for casting I Ching hexagrams. I'm doing this for myself but I still believe that someone, someday, will find one of the many methods I've put together (dice, beads, or whatever) and find them useful (or at least pleasant ) .