I Ching for Singles:How can I Ching help?

[denv12]

After buying a copy of Stephen Karcher's book "Symbols of Love" I started asking for guidance for potential relationship matters.The responses have been quite interesting.What I would like to know is,for those of you who have also asked for guidance with relationship matters(whether you are single,divorced,etc,)how has I Ching helped you? And,what can I Ching do for singles? Which book(s)do you use? Hw has this changed your life for the better?

Thanks.

Chris.

 

[void]

Personally I have a pretty dim view of consulting the Yi as a kind of dating advice method.

I think the Yi always refers one back to oneself, to ones own development, own path. Often relationships are stepping stones on the way to self knowledge. They are not the be all and end all in themselves.

Whats more I don't even think the Yi really answers people dating questions the way people think they will. I've seen people here over and over get completely the wrong end of the stick by following what they think is the Yi's romance advice.

You ask 'What can the I Ching do for singles ?' I'm not sure you are being entirely serious -
Why would you think that being single is a special condition the Yi addresses as a special issue lol.

I also have a very dim view of those who write special 'I Ching on Love' books - must be a money making ploy. The way I see it these books just travel further and further away from the spirit of the Yi. Mind you I do have 'The I Ching on Love' by Guy Damian Knight which I admit to using a long time ago, when I was younger, lol. It was utterly misleading.

 

[hilary]

Hm... I can't answer your question directly, Chris, sorry, as I met my husband first and the oracle second

But I do think that Yi meets people where they are - and so the idea of 'I Ching for singles' isn't so very terrible. If the existence of an 'I Ching on love' book shows someone that the oracle can talk about what preoccupies them, now, from day to day, and inspires someone to pick up the book and start divining, then I'm all for it. (I suspect that Stephen K's book will be a cut above Guy Damian Knight's.) Of course life doesn't really subdivide in this way, and the subdivided and specialised I Ching could get quite funny, quite fast...

(I Ching for singles... I Ching for short fat singles... I Ching for short, fat, single people living in medium-sized apartments with one goldfish and a rubber plant... wow, the niche marketing possibilities!)

...but we've got to start somewhere.

Hm... you've heard the joke about asking directions, and having someone tell you,
"Well, I wouldn't start from here"
?

I reckon Yi is pretty good at starting from here.

I've known people consult to good effect about...

marriage
divorce
relationships with children/ parents
relationships with markets
relationships with bosses or colleagues or employees
relationships with existing or prospective business partners
relationships with many aspects of themselves

...so why not new romantic relationships?

Good question to ask the 'I Ching for singles':
"How could I change" - or just "How could I be - to attract a true partner?"

 

[bruce]

The Erotic I Ching could be interesting.

And let's not forget I Ching for Pets!

 

[luz]

Wouldn't it be nice: "The I Ching for pets that scratch themselves too much and eat too much but are deliciously good doggies anyway"

 

[hilary]

Are those with or without the rubber plant?

 

[bruce]

That's under fetishwear, 44.3, I believe. Wait, are we talking about Erotic or Pets?

Angel, I'm reporting you to ... ... whoever it is that arrests pet eaters.

 

[luz]

Lol!
Hilary, please write the version without the rubber plant first.. I don't think Bruce has one. And he seems in need of a distraction(?)!

 

[bruce]

lol

 

[hilary]

Oh no... definitely leaving this niche to the more experienced. With or without rubber plant or goldfish.

Poor Chris, trying to have a sensible conversation.

 

[bruce]

It's the rubber chickens you have to be wary of.

Sensible, erm, yeah..

My question is: How could someone receive advise about a relationship with someone else which doesn't involve change in themselves? And wouldn?t the entire Yi be needed to do that? A niche Yi which overlooks the critical component of self-reflection and change would be rendered impotent. Maybe good to tickle the senses and imagination, but how far beyond that could someone grow or benefit from it?

 

[peace]

How does one know what someone else thinks or feels?

I think you can learn more about yourself - in relation to YOUR perception of the other person - with the understanding that what you think of the other person is your fantasy/projection of them.

I'd stick to asking about myself and my perceptions - not anyone else's.

Rosalie

 

[denv12]

Hi everyone.Now I am real pleased that this topic has received positive response.

How about a book for those men and women who have parents that would make terrible in laws? Or,How about "I Ching for the fetishlly inclined"?(someone else mentioned it and it wasnt me.)

A book called "I Ching for pets"? What advice could they get?I mean they clean themselves by licking their private parts then when you get home they jump on you and lick your face.Surely the I Ching could tell them to stop doing that.

How about "I Ching for Children"? I mean,These little people dont like vegatables but eat boogers.Their judgement isnt all that good is it?

Seriously though,I think that singles can benefit by asking for guidance.I mean,I'm single but I ask about women I know including my ex.Single people do need guidance,not like in their lack of "pick-up" techniques.

I think single people can ask for guidance from I Ching.I am.

 

[dannyl]

When I was single (and not happy with it) I did ask the Yi about it. I remember getting Hexagram 5 quite a lot!

That's "Waiting" in Wilhelm Baynes. The Yi worked to make me happier with my situation as it was and not as obsessed with changing it. It's reflected this to me in various ways at various times, even if - frequently - I didnt want to hear its advice.

 

[nicky_p]

I quite like it when I get 5 if asking about 'being single'. I think I've seen it written somewhere: 'wait with faith'

As Phill Collins says: 'You can't hurry love'

Love
Nicky
xx

 

[bradford_h]

Nicky-
Better yet, wait with higher purpose. The bottom trigram (zhen gua) is Qian, Heaven. In my own system, 05 is the two of cups in Tarot. 05 is well-suited to work on one's worthiness for love, at least when you have nothing better or more immediate to do

 

[nicky_p]

 

[peace]

Isn't "Can't Hurry Love" the Supremes?

Anyway - it's like - Don't go grocery shopping when you're hungry. You won't make great choices!

(I think that's related to what's being discussed??)

 

[denv12]

The questions I've been asking are in regards to 3 women,1 of whom is my ex,one is a former neighbour and a woman I met before I met my ex.The guidance seems to favour the former neighbour.

 

[matt]

Hey Denv12

An advice:- Its best not to use the I Ching to choose between potential partners. Two reason jump out at me immediately, but I have a feeling there are another 4327 reasons that I havent thought of it. Firstly, the I Ching will not present you with answers about which woman will be best for you, it will provide clues as to the energies in your situation, hints on how you are feeling/thinking, perhaps it will provide elements of asituation you have missed or are overlooking etc. Remember, its an oracle of personal growth.
Secondly, if you use the I Ching to help make such decisions as this, then it takes all the spontaneous benevolence away from your heart. If you choose to deal with affairs of the heart in a logical manner, then you will never be able to out all of yourself into it, and believe me, a woman senses this on a deeper level. And so does the I Ching, it will not provide you with such definitive choices between women.

 

[void]

This is presupposing these poor women are waiting in line for your attention

Are these women actually people to you or just options you know like TV channels.

 

[denv12]

I know these women.I never said they are waiting in line.

As we all know I Ching can't make the decisions for us.We do have decide for ourselves.

 

[luz]

Yeah, Denv12, I think Chico.. I mean, Matt! (

) is right. I think it's best to listen to your heart. Fall in love with A or B first, then worry about the rest. You can't pick partners like you would pick a car.

 

[matt]

Angel!!! There is one big difference between Chico and myself - Chico can sing a lot better than I can!