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I dreamt of hex 2 and 20
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2 as id. I'd never considered that thought before. I'll need to 20 that awhile.
Part of that resonates and part doesn't. The id is unseen, deep within the ocean of consciousness. It is true that the earth (2) is largely unseen, we only see the surface. It's an interesting thought.
There's an aspect of 2 that's often overlooked: 2 does the work involved with creation. A male brings potential to her, and after that, it's her baby. Ain't that just like a man.
Part of that resonates and part doesn't. The id is unseen, deep within the ocean of consciousness. It is true that the earth (2) is largely unseen, we only see the surface. It's an interesting thought.
There's an aspect of 2 that's often overlooked: 2 does the work involved with creation. A male brings potential to her, and after that, it's her baby. Ain't that just like a man.
So, 2 is not a no doer, as they say. It is a slow, under the earth, doer. Like a pregnant woman who is slow and quiet, but inside her a lot is being created...
Like the seed sprouting. First the root grows inside and then after comes the green.
It makes sense with what LiSe write aboutn2, now i undersand!!!
Makes sense?
Thanks meng, you make me think/dream/hear my intuition...
Like the seed sprouting. First the root grows inside and then after comes the green.
It makes sense with what LiSe write aboutn2, now i undersand!!!
Makes sense?
Thanks meng, you make me think/dream/hear my intuition...
It is funny, i was not thinking of writing ID but, thinking about it, it could make sense. The Id is underneath our conscience. There lay our pulsions, our desires, a part of us that can flpurish to conciousness if it is alowed.
What do you say meng?
What do you say meng?
No id, huh? lol ... d'oh! 
I still think it's an interesting comparison with h2 in some ways.
Consciousness is the entire sea, not just the surface. What is conscious is above the surface. The rest is beneath, theoretically. The id lies deeply beneath the submerged ego, alongside the Superego or conscience. But, yes, I agree: what is beneath the conscious surface does rise to the surface in dreams or waking synchronicity, such as intuitive premonitions, epiphanies or IC reading. In that sense, it does manifest in a tangible, h2 way.
I still think it's an interesting comparison with h2 in some ways.
Consciousness is the entire sea, not just the surface. What is conscious is above the surface. The rest is beneath, theoretically. The id lies deeply beneath the submerged ego, alongside the Superego or conscience. But, yes, I agree: what is beneath the conscious surface does rise to the surface in dreams or waking synchronicity, such as intuitive premonitions, epiphanies or IC reading. In that sense, it does manifest in a tangible, h2 way.
And it is funny it come out during a dream... It was pretty weird to wake up with the certainty of these 2 hexagrams...
I'm kind of confused here, trying to interpret a reading:
It is the second time that 14 comes attached with a relationship.
The 1st time it was
14.5 > 1
And it come out i was "left alone".
But i have a strange feeling that something is moving. I can't give you all the details, but yesterday i asked:
What would be the result of not giving-up on X?
14.3 > 38
Now, what the hell do i do with the hex 38???
It could be that, although we are appart and have different points of view on what to do, we can manage to put things in perspective and have a great possession.
Or could be that although this is a great possession, it will end in opposition... Somehow i feel more for the 1st one, but...
I also asked, the day before, how can i break the cycles of exterior good and bad, of external influences in my life?
28.5 > 32
Funny thing? Although i wasn't at all asking about X, we have quite a bit of age difference... It is kind of funny that the 5th line talks about that...
I get surprised at the apparently positive hex regarding this person, when i'm always expecting terrible ones!!! What the hell should I do?
Maybe stop and wait, ãnh?
Look for a wider view, don't judge, and just let life unfold...
I'm kind of confused here, trying to interpret a reading:
It is the second time that 14 comes attached with a relationship.
The 1st time it was
14.5 > 1
And it come out i was "left alone".
But i have a strange feeling that something is moving. I can't give you all the details, but yesterday i asked:
What would be the result of not giving-up on X?
14.3 > 38
Now, what the hell do i do with the hex 38???
It could be that, although we are appart and have different points of view on what to do, we can manage to put things in perspective and have a great possession.
Or could be that although this is a great possession, it will end in opposition... Somehow i feel more for the 1st one, but...
I also asked, the day before, how can i break the cycles of exterior good and bad, of external influences in my life?
28.5 > 32
Funny thing? Although i wasn't at all asking about X, we have quite a bit of age difference... It is kind of funny that the 5th line talks about that...
I get surprised at the apparently positive hex regarding this person, when i'm always expecting terrible ones!!! What the hell should I do?
Maybe stop and wait, ãnh?
Look for a wider view, don't judge, and just let life unfold...
Just a couple of observations. You decide whether they are pieces to your puzzle or just stuff to toss onto the back burner.
I seldom have received 14 when I was feeling good about myself. Sounds alittle silly, but it feels like the Yi is saying "Chin up, you possess more than you give yourself credit for."
So I tend to see these 14's in an internal way, rather than in terms of a relationship with another. So I think the Yi is giving you support, encouragement to belief in yourself and recognize your better qualities. Maybe better than his?
38 sounds bad but it's just one of those things. Creation included all kinds of personalities, upbringings, cultures, subcultures, beliefs and belief systems. Some of these "particles" do not interact in a desired way with certain other types, and some are in stark opposition in one or more particular ways. Yi says to be true to who you are. It doesn't say be rude or insensitive, or beat your opponent about their head, nor to hate them because they are standing in opposition to you. They have to be true to who they are too. And sometimes, well, it seems no matter how hard either or both try, there's still that magnetic repulsion to each other and the respective views. Nothing wrong with that. That's life. Water and fire, oil and water: some things don't mix, period.
I seldom have received 14 when I was feeling good about myself. Sounds alittle silly, but it feels like the Yi is saying "Chin up, you possess more than you give yourself credit for."
So I tend to see these 14's in an internal way, rather than in terms of a relationship with another. So I think the Yi is giving you support, encouragement to belief in yourself and recognize your better qualities. Maybe better than his?
38 sounds bad but it's just one of those things. Creation included all kinds of personalities, upbringings, cultures, subcultures, beliefs and belief systems. Some of these "particles" do not interact in a desired way with certain other types, and some are in stark opposition in one or more particular ways. Yi says to be true to who you are. It doesn't say be rude or insensitive, or beat your opponent about their head, nor to hate them because they are standing in opposition to you. They have to be true to who they are too. And sometimes, well, it seems no matter how hard either or both try, there's still that magnetic repulsion to each other and the respective views. Nothing wrong with that. That's life. Water and fire, oil and water: some things don't mix, period.
Meng, are you a god-send? A messenger from the universe?
Looking back, yes, 14 is about giving me strength about myself! Amazing!
Do you mind keeping this dialogue and you tell me of your experience with the hexagrams?
Sometime ago i asked:
Is x worth the effort of trying and waiting, in th long run?
I got 51.3 > 55
Yesterday i had a jolt. I thought we would be seeing each other in a work "function" (christmas thing) and i was amazed that he didn't warn me.
14 telling me to trust me value?
After all he didn't come. Good.
But yesterday night i did ask about today. And i don't understand if it warned me or not:
What's going to happen tomorrow?
11.4.6 > 14
How should i behave tomorrow in order to be happier, serene and full of love?
21.2.3.6 > 34
??????
Looking back, yes, 14 is about giving me strength about myself! Amazing!
Do you mind keeping this dialogue and you tell me of your experience with the hexagrams?
Sometime ago i asked:
Is x worth the effort of trying and waiting, in th long run?
I got 51.3 > 55
Yesterday i had a jolt. I thought we would be seeing each other in a work "function" (christmas thing) and i was amazed that he didn't warn me.
14 telling me to trust me value?
After all he didn't come. Good.
But yesterday night i did ask about today. And i don't understand if it warned me or not:
What's going to happen tomorrow?
11.4.6 > 14
How should i behave tomorrow in order to be happier, serene and full of love?
21.2.3.6 > 34
??????
Every bit as much as you are, Deusa. Though it's true, when I walk into a room, it fills with golden light, and angels sing :O) aAAaAAaAhhhhh. Well, not really. But a particular hummingbird greets me when I come home, and that's no lie.
Your answers are gems, and I think you interpret them well.
Something you may wish to contemplate is: what % of Yi's three responses speaks to your literal question, and what % speaks to you, the person, about such things as your present temperament and perceptions while asking the questions, including how your temperament and perceptions can effect the outcome of your question? (rather than predicting them)
Your answers are gems, and I think you interpret them well.
Something you may wish to contemplate is: what % of Yi's three responses speaks to your literal question, and what % speaks to you, the person, about such things as your present temperament and perceptions while asking the questions, including how your temperament and perceptions can effect the outcome of your question? (rather than predicting them)
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Gotta say I am quite taken with my Yi dreams because they were very clearly voiced and came with color images as well.
They were subconscious messages I could not deny....once I even dreamed of the same cast I forgot I had a long ago on the same matter and this time the line got explained through scene settings....actually, I should try to YI dream more. TY
And meng`s take on hex 14 make sense to me-regarding a few casts of mine where I was thinking I will get or gain something from the outside, it turned out I was suppose to work on what I could or had.
So in that light, getting hex 11 for me would be a signal to calm down, I am on the winning side or just that things will go well for me. So this situation rings; things are in some sort of flow, have confidence in yourself first and work on your betterment, so that when the situation is over, you end up possessing something you cannot be stripped of - your self worth. Or something like that.
They were subconscious messages I could not deny....once I even dreamed of the same cast I forgot I had a long ago on the same matter and this time the line got explained through scene settings....actually, I should try to YI dream more. TY
And meng`s take on hex 14 make sense to me-regarding a few casts of mine where I was thinking I will get or gain something from the outside, it turned out I was suppose to work on what I could or had.
So in that light, getting hex 11 for me would be a signal to calm down, I am on the winning side or just that things will go well for me. So this situation rings; things are in some sort of flow, have confidence in yourself first and work on your betterment, so that when the situation is over, you end up possessing something you cannot be stripped of - your self worth. Or something like that.
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I tell you what i heard so far, form Yi answers:
I have the right to be angry and expect punishment but i am not going to be able to do it myself. In the end he will be punished somehow, so I should relax about it. Trust my value and expect harmony in general. And trust that correct behaviour will be rewarded, non correct behaviour will be punished.
I can and should express my rightful emotions, maybe I will get some humiliation if I do, but nothing specially bad.
I should understand that there is more to the matter then the eye can see. My tendency will be to take conclusions in a simplistic way, but actually I DON'T KNOW what happened really. So i should try to keep my instincts aware and... Well, maybe see the bigger picture, as previously suggested? (Unfortunately I have no way to get the missing pieces of the puzzle, at least not for the time being).
I should act as correctly and composed as I can.
What do you say?
I understand what you say about Yi answers... It is to get a better view of our unconscious or unaware reactions, right?
Are you a man or a woman? Just curious, ihih.
I have the right to be angry and expect punishment but i am not going to be able to do it myself. In the end he will be punished somehow, so I should relax about it. Trust my value and expect harmony in general. And trust that correct behaviour will be rewarded, non correct behaviour will be punished.
I can and should express my rightful emotions, maybe I will get some humiliation if I do, but nothing specially bad.
I should understand that there is more to the matter then the eye can see. My tendency will be to take conclusions in a simplistic way, but actually I DON'T KNOW what happened really. So i should try to keep my instincts aware and... Well, maybe see the bigger picture, as previously suggested? (Unfortunately I have no way to get the missing pieces of the puzzle, at least not for the time being).
I should act as correctly and composed as I can.
What do you say?
I understand what you say about Yi answers... It is to get a better view of our unconscious or unaware reactions, right?
Are you a man or a woman? Just curious, ihih.
Dragona, loves you reply!
It makes PERFECT sense.
I am trying to calm down, although i am a rather active woman, ahahah!
No, everything is fine as it is. Even in the middle of the turmoil, of emotions and thoughts and this plunge in the Yi, I can appreciate the beautiful winter clouds or the great stone constructions my kids did yesterday for winter solstice.
And, after all, the world didn't end! One has to rejoice!
If I knew how to do it, I would attach a photograph of today's clouds...
It makes PERFECT sense.
I am trying to calm down, although i am a rather active woman, ahahah!
No, everything is fine as it is. Even in the middle of the turmoil, of emotions and thoughts and this plunge in the Yi, I can appreciate the beautiful winter clouds or the great stone constructions my kids did yesterday for winter solstice.
And, after all, the world didn't end! One has to rejoice!
If I knew how to do it, I would attach a photograph of today's clouds...
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Moi?
sumptuous figured, almost pass my prime beauty turning into beast 
hm, hm...notice the tone...it changed when you opened the subject, taking about anger and justice....I don`t think you should expect anything of a sort to reward you - reward yourself instead.
Let`s say I got 14.3 for doing something I thought right, to purpose and generous..and what was the best compliment I got for it? THIS LINE
A prince offers it to the Son of Heaven.
A petty man cannot do this.
Detach from the feelings this issue rises in you and go play with yoour children in the snow, would be my advice for the day :bows:
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Hi dragona
Of course you are right! Let go, let go...
I was just trying to read through the readings, really. 21 is all about punishment, not my fault!!
Anyway, we have no snow around here. Our winter is like many place's spring. Lucky us!
Of course you are right! Let go, let go...
I was just trying to read through the readings, really. 21 is all about punishment, not my fault!!
Anyway, we have no snow around here. Our winter is like many place's spring. Lucky us!
I had an insight!
The previous answer to what would happen if i don't give up on X (14.3 > 38) is:
Dah, you'll get appart, you dum lady, just give him up, stop stop stop!
Go on with your contemplation, calm down, get in yourself, trust yourself and LET GO!
Don't be stubborn.
The previous answer to what would happen if i don't give up on X (14.3 > 38) is:
Dah, you'll get appart, you dum lady, just give him up, stop stop stop!
Go on with your contemplation, calm down, get in yourself, trust yourself and LET GO!
Don't be stubborn.
It could be, but when you bite through a carrot or chocolate bar, is it with the intent to punish it?
How does the word decisiveness sound?
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oh, you meant meng
:bag:btw, it seems to me that 14.3<38 may be about different levels of investment here...I understand you are willing to invest generously into this connection and the other side may not be which will lead to opposing. Or unequal investing has led to it....depending how things are now...
Yes, not as a definitive word, just one that applies well sometimes.
You know the old saying, that's a big pill to swallow? or have you procrastinated on something and know you must make a decision on it, you must bite through it?
The reason shamanism is brought into it is because sometimes the things we have to bite through seem impossible, so there's a strong mind-over-matter effort to bite through the obstacle. It could also mean buckling down to the work at hand, even though there's other things you'd rather being doing - discipline. Problem I've seen is that some see discipline as something they should administer only to someone else - and sometimes it is - but one shouldn't overlook self-discipline as the intended message.
I'm an ole dude.
Yes... Makes sense, you know. Just detach yourself, woman. Be more disciplined in detaching yourself.
It could be SHE has to bite through something too, actually... But still, i should think of myself.
I though you were an old dude, as you put it. But i was unsure. There was something masculine about your answers. Can't figure out why...
It could be SHE has to bite through something too, actually... But still, i should think of myself.
I though you were an old dude, as you put it. But i was unsure. There was something masculine about your answers. Can't figure out why...
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As I was reading this thread, I was reminded how 21 often brings to mind the expression 'execute a decision'. Comparing it to 55, which is made out of the same trigrams and which shows a wealth of choices and the difficulties of sorting them out, in 21 what needs to be done is quite clear and so asks of someone to buckle down, clench their teeth and go ahead with it
Yes!
Bite through, meaning take the decision, even if it is hard, to retreat.
If you retreat and stop engaging, if you keep serene and withdrawn, everything is going to be alright.
Okok, i admit i am a rather expressive, lively, active woman. And everywhere i get the message to STOP.
I'm working on it, really, and i am enjoying myself in the process.
The Yi, being chinese, must be really surprised at a person so "southern" as me, ihih!
If you are getting ready for Christmas, have a nice Christmas, and believe that the sun will grow again, seed will sprout, Spring will be here very soon, and birds will be singing...
Love and gratitude for your answers to my personal, insignificant problems.
Bite through, meaning take the decision, even if it is hard, to retreat.
If you retreat and stop engaging, if you keep serene and withdrawn, everything is going to be alright.
Okok, i admit i am a rather expressive, lively, active woman. And everywhere i get the message to STOP.
I'm working on it, really, and i am enjoying myself in the process.
The Yi, being chinese, must be really surprised at a person so "southern" as me, ihih!
If you are getting ready for Christmas, have a nice Christmas, and believe that the sun will grow again, seed will sprout, Spring will be here very soon, and birds will be singing...
Love and gratitude for your answers to my personal, insignificant problems.
Just for feed-back, i think the answer 11> 14 was telling me it was not going to happen, what I feared.
Something like : you have great possession, you are worthy, you are not going to have to go through such an unconfortable situation (11: peace).
Something like : you have great possession, you are worthy, you are not going to have to go through such an unconfortable situation (11: peace).