I Have No Dream 36.3>24

[marybluesky]

I have never been the optimistic type with lots of wishes and dreams.

When I hear people say fight for your dreams, don't lose your time, I don't know how this can apply on my life. I even don't have any direction to go. There's nothing I find irresistible. And if a goal ruins my daily comfort, I don't find it worth it. Not that I'm happy with my life. But I can't see anything precious to move towards. And in few occasions I yearned for something, I knew I couldn't reach it and let it go. However the main theme is no dreams at all.

People say they wish they lived for 1000 years because it allowed them to make their wishes true. I find it very weird. Many of their dreams are mundane things like relationships and money. Well, if they are not able to reach these things in the first 100 years I don't think the next 900 years will help. Anyway...

I told the title to the I Ching and got 36.3>24

To me it means nothing but: "let it be, come back to your life". Any ideas?

 

[Trojina]

All I can think of is Yi is saying it is an important realisation for you that this set of people say these kinds of things and it means nothing to you and that is a significant realisation because your life isn't that.


'Brightness hidden hunting in the south.
Gets their great leader.
Hasty steadfastness not possible.'

In 36 as a whole one's light, one's true self and self expression is under threat and so has to be hidden. In danger when the environment is hostile one needs to pretend to be like others in order to get by. And when I say 'hostile' I don't necessarily mean openly at war with but often more like just not accepting you. In line 3 there's a breakthrough of some kind - something that was injurious is captured, dismantled put out of service and that's an important stage. However this doesn't resolve all the smaller satellite issues that surround that injurious thing, but then it's natural it will take time. If a new leader throws out a corrupt one there will still trouble makers lingering in hiding but everything can't be made good in one day.

How to apply this to the question though? It seems to me perhaps you uncovered something that has undermined you 'these people say follow your dream I have no dream' it's undermining if it's making you feel as if somehow you're not quite right if you don't have these dreams? It's not true of course, only a few people have these great dreams they follow, I never met any of them though. Not everyone's life is like that, their lives just aren't that shape, they aren't based around following big dreams it's often just a cliche.

People say they wish they lived for 1000 years because it allowed them to make their wishes true. I find it very weird.

What people? Do you mean authors of books or people you know? I can't see why anyone would want to live a 1000 years, it certainly wouldn't guarantee getting all they wanted because life takes away as much as it gives.

I don't know if the above is what 36.3 is saying to you but it's the only thing I can think of.

 

[marybluesky]

Trojina I know real people who think like that. They even get excited when someone like me says she doesn't want to live that long. It makes them feel superior

 

[Trojina]

Tell them that you're not that shallow

If these people want to live for another thousand years they clearly haven't suffered enough. Also presumably they think this is it, all there is, nothing better beyond this life.

I mean when I talk to very old people I find they are always 'ready to go' in much the same way we'd be ready to sleep at the end of a long day. I don't think there are that many very old people fiercely opposed to their lives ending and I get the sense not just because their bodies are old but because they've been through a lot and their soul needs the rest.

I also don't get why these people think they would get what they want just because they had an extra thousand years - they could have a thousand years of loss for all they know.

 

[rosada]

36.3 "Capturing their great leader."
I see this as meaning you have hit on precisely what the problem is: You have no dream. After all, "you gotta have a dream if you're gonna have a dream come true."
24. Return.
A very optimistic omen. Now that you recognize the problem you are in a position to get your life on track. Just be aware that since there is an entire hexagram dedicated to "returning" this is obviously not something that happens instantly but may require some intentional focus for awhile.

Perhaps your next question should be something along the lines of "What should I dream of / intend?"

 

[marybluesky]

Thanks Rosada

Since a few months I've been focusing on regaining my mental and physical vigour. If you remember the Covid years left me depressed for a long time. I even suspect it has been a case of long Covid. Plus there was far less occasions to breath the fresh air, let alone outdoor activities. Like others, I was busy fighting with those several waves of Covid. It left me weakened.

I like your suggestion and asked it. The answer: 64.1.4> 41
It's too early to tell. By the way I receive this "three years of attacking the demon country" since about four years. I don't know what the matter is.

 

[kestrelw1ngs]

Thanks Rosada

Since a few months I've been focusing on regaining my mental and physical vigour. If you remember the Covid years left me depressed for a long time. I even suspect it has been a case of long Covid. Plus there was far less occasions to breath the fresh air, let alone outdoor activities. Like others, I was busy fighting with those several waves of Covid. It left me weakened.

I like your suggestion and asked it. The answer: 64.1.4> 41
It's too early to tell. By the way I receive this "three years of attacking the demon country" since about four years. I don't know what the matter is.

Hm yes
64.1 - not quite prepared
64.4 - confidence from a kind of haze
41 - reductions are not bad "letting go of what one doesn't need makes way for what one does need" or that simplicity isn't bad

my intuition here says, maybe your dreams can be much simpler than you imagine. people say follow your dreams but what if those dreams are mundane?

letting go of big dreams as a need could open up a kind of joy in the simplicity of life itself.


As a person like you described above, wanting 1000 years to do and see everything, its a very 16 energy, big visions that exceed the human capacity. And is a belief that often leads to suffering.

Some folks do have excess energy they enjoy channeling into "filling" life to the brim but generally it requires a fair amount of luck and privilege/protection from poverty and struggle to do such a thing. Most of us will not achieve this sort of idealized life where dreams come true because we will be busy surviving hardship and loss....and its not bad to cut out that fantasy especially if you've never even understood it.


Maybe the dream of the underprepared and overconfident fox is a key to something significant to your own soul and path?

Or that yes it could just take a significant amount of time and personal growth to learn your 'dream' as crossing that river is not equally easy for everyone. I imagine two kids wanting to be musicians, one born in the epicenter of a culturally rich city to musician parents, the other born to a struggling industry town with blue collar parents who don't value music much. The latter kid trying to jump right into that big city and "make it" might come back home with a wet tail not having understood what the unfamiliar terrain required, fueled only by dreams. Easier to cross a big river with a caravan of supports than as a solitary little fox. Doesn't mean they never will but maybe they need to rest and dry off, maybe sneak aboard a caravan....or decide crossing the river isn't that important and adjust their dream to something fitting of their spiritual size.

Take what you will from that rambling, and all the best in recovering your vitality!

 

[rosada]

Thoughts..
The Devil's Country is the area on the outer borders after which "Here they be dragons" as the old maps used to say. At this time of Before Completion this line indicates we're on the verge of starting a whole new adventure but we hesitate because we're uneasy about going beyond our familiar borders. We can expect it will take a long time to become comfortable in the new expanded neighborhood - three years! - but ultimately we calm our fears.

41. Decrease could be prompting you to donate to others you sense may be somehow going through similar trials. Or perhaps it is reassuring you that you wont have to climb Mount Everest to experience a sense of accomplishment.

 

[breakmov]

hello marybluesky

I Have No Dream 36.3>24​

I told the title to the I Ching and got 36.3>24

To me it means nothing but: "let it be, come back to your life". Any ideas?

I like your suggestion and asked it. The answer: 64.1.4> 41

Is there a chance it could be you in this video?

"
....
Is you a believer?
I get a unicorn out of a zebra
I wear my uniform like a tuxedo
This dragon don't hold his breath, don't need no breather
Love you Ms. Cita, the son of a leader
I know the bloomin' don't come without rain
I know the losin' don't come without shame
I know the beauty don't come without hurt
....
"
edit:
which in short as an option:

36.3>24
someone who knows they are in a situation of "chronic pain...something dragged out over time that creates a numbness of the senses" but has not yet seen the solution to how to get out of that state.

64.1.4>41
someone who is looking for a new way to wake up to a more basic and simple experience of her life.

breakmov

 

[marybluesky]

36.3>24
someone who knows they are in a situation of "chronic pain...something dragged out over time that creates a numbness of the senses" but has not yet seen the solution to how to get out of that state.

Thanks breakmov but I don't consider it necessarily a situation of chronic pain.

 

[professionalsky3]

36.3
You'll be conscious of the root cause of leading an emotionsless life, which is probably a defense mechanism that you still don't know about. Maybe the thought of making great changes can be very scary to you so you lost a few opportunities to take a risk (Fan Yao 24.3). Perhaps you went through stressful situations that prompted you closing yourself off to experience something new but the pain is so acute that you'd rather not feel it once again.

 

[breakmov]

Thanks breakmov but I don't consider it necessarily a situation of chronic pain.

when I used the term chronic pain, I was not using it in that literal sense, but more in the sense that I have described after the use of that expression.
- it was not my intention to give such a fatalistic meaning to the expression "chronic pain", much less to a person like you in your 30s.

..but just to explain why this association of "chronic pain" with 36.3> 24:

I am a person with a very introverted disposition, so I think I can understand the disposition of another person who is also introverted, albeit less so, like you.
The "introvert's inner world" in its basic functioning is "always concerned" with the ethics of things, "what is right or not to do" has a much greater weight from the start than "a simply doing"

- an introvert lives predominantly in his head....and he lives, let there be no mistake, an inner life full of passion and dreams but which tend to stay there in his wanderings of what/how is correct or not correct, possible or not possible!

... that song "Believer" represents the "inner drama" of an introvert very well!

It was with some surprise to see the context you gave to your reading of someone with very little disposition to be excited by dreams and wishes and with an attitude much more connected to the indifference of things and at the same time the opposite experience I have of some of the topics you have left on forum...

....and hence the natural association of 36.3>24 with something close to the expression "chronic pain" but better contextualized in the subject "Learned Helplessness" and later developments "Old problem, new tools"
.


breakmov