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I think that 62 looks like a supersized or amplified trigram of Kan.
Right. that's why I said 29 powers through.Kan doesn't shy from the dangers, filling the gaps or taking the risks. Like the middle son it has an element of being buffered protection to promote success.
Right, with the exceptions of lines 1& 2, which clearly refer to danger. and advise to not act or to seek only small gains.courage needs to be found to face the fear.
Next I'll look at Li, 30, and 61.
Ever notice how a flame is hot around the edges, top & bottom, but your hand could safely pass through the middle?
______ ouch/hard/hot
___ ___ no ouch
______ ouch/hard/hot
Hm - sometimes 61 is simply ultra-vivid inner experience, 'inner knowing'; it doesn't necessarily 'get' anyone else. I seem to remember Brad describing it as possibly solipsistic.Fire Illuminates,
30 sees clearly, & radiates that light.
61 is so intense that it penetrates to see the inner truth of another,
And so intense that it even sways pigs and fishes.
Like a deep lake, not like a really far-reaching (or really remote) thunderbolt?Another image that comes to mind is Hex. 24, which looks like a really deep lake to me. Again, I'll say that I don't know it's name or what the lines and text say - and I know it's not 34, the 'dabagua' of trigram Dui, which is associated with Joy, Lake, Satisfaction, among others things.
This isn't reminding me of anything in 24, but the name of 34 can actually be translated as 'Great Injury', and I have seen a reading or two where that fitted....Another association for the trigram Dui which Harmen has mentioned is that of a wound at the surface (depicted by the one rou line at the top - so perhaps this is someone or some thing that is wounded or broken, but only at the surface. And here with 24, with its five rou lines, could it be that the wound or 'brokenness' goes much, much deeper?
41 - Gen Dui Gui or Da Tun Gui - Mountain Lake Turtle, also known as Big-rump Turtle ... and42 - Zhen Xun Gui or Da Tou Gui - Thunderous Wind Turtle, also know as Big-head Turtle ...
Yes, if it portrayed what a thermometer would report, passing through the flame. But that's not what it shows. It's how a flame looks - bright on the outside, darker in the centre - and what it does - active flames clinging to the fuel as they burn it.
(Thinking of strong lines as acting and broken lines as 'acted on' is a generally useful way to imagine trigrams.)
Its not a new "version" of the Yi. Its just a different way of presenting a set of symbols used to represent something.Dave, who knows, if you came up with a new version of the I Ching, or indeed a whole new oracle, maybe it would be better than the I Ching as we know it. You are certainly free to try, and you could start up a blog of your own (here's one) and invite people to read it.
But I, for one, am not much interested in re-doing the trigrams and hexagrams. If that makes me a troglodyte, so be it.
There's surely no such thing as a "new version of the I Ching." It would be a new oracle, period.
Its not a new "version" of the Yi. Its just a different way of presenting a set of symbols used to represent something.
The Yi is not in the symbolism, its in the meaning.
No, most definitely, it is not.Perhaps my symbolism is better than what we have recieived.
I think you've homed in here on the difference between your approach and the Yijing. The Yi is quite simply and directly based on human experience. How we live things, how they look, what they are for us.But if how something "looks" is the criteria then that means that the Trigrams, represent onthing but appearances and illusions.
Surely it is the "real" nature of Li that would be the manifestation that produces a possible image.
I'm interested as well in how we might define 'earth' and in particular 'heaven' - with all of it's religious associations.
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