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Something happened, which I cannot really get to the bottom of that somehow shook me and spun me out into nowhere. Since then, I couldn't get a hold of myself, my previous goals didn't seem to mean anything. My previous hobbies fell out of me and somehow I've lost the passion to press on as I did before.

At present, I mostly feel adrift, almost depressed to have no purpose or goal which I am passionate about.

Yes, I have goals, plans, ambitions, but none of these make me feel passionate about them. And so I asked "what is my future with respect to art projects?"

I asked in a sense thinking if it is going to be valuable, if it will mean something, or lead me somewhere good. If at all, I ask in the spirit of inquiring, will going through the troubles and costs of time, energy, focus, and spiritual will worth these endeavors?

The cast was 32. Lines 2, 3, 4. <-- typo 5 instead of 4

Any thoughts?
 
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I'd say the answer to this question is the same as the answer you got for obsessing over that girl of yours - art needs to be experienced and if you are trying to get results according to some fixed preconceived idea, you'll just end up disappointed.

Steady your inner self, get in the right frame of mind and then be open for the opportunities. You may want to consider a bit of a change of scene as well, probably.

Don't let yourself slip into depression because once there it's so hard to get out. so keep moving (in body and mind) to keep your spirit alive :)
 

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Grace, thanks for your interpretation and thoughts. I have further inquiry in the form of an argument and questions listed below:

#1) The obsession with the girl. If that obsession were to be present now regarding my projects, that would actually be a blessing. That's the problem here, I am not obsessed. I can do it, but it's just like washing the dishes. You know, I feel nothing.

This is core to why I asked about the value of the projects, since worth-wise (personal value) it has nothing. How then does this reading apply to my situation?

#2) Preconceived idea. Of course there must be an idea else everything will just wound about and progress wildly, right? So this must be regarding expectations? Does your interpretation imply that expecting something out from these projects is pointless since they will mean nothing?

#3)Right frame of mind. This is somewhat disturbing. I know it is right to be productive, and I know being creative is part of who I am. So desiring to enjoy my creativity should not be a wrong frame of mind. Therefore, does this imply again that I should forget even asking the question altogether?

#4) Inner Stability. This form of stability is unnerving. I feel separate from who I was, or at least know I am. It just doesn't make sense that someone could suddenly lose interest on the things he is utterly passionate about. I'm not in a sense dead inside, rather, dispassionate. It's like I'm numb or something. So, what is Inner Stability? How does it apply to my situation? Any examples?

#5) Depression. Well, the word is dreadful. The fact about it is I'm worried that I've reached this point in my path. There's nothing I feel about these things I absolutely loved and fought for. This is regarding only my art projects of course. It's more of like watching a part of you just die, but that's all I really have and treasure the most. If I have no other interest, and this has somehow "died", then, OMG!!!


I have some questions also about the lines:
1. What does it mean to "give duration to one's character"?
2. What does it mean to "give duration through perseverance"?
 

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Grace, thanks for your interpretation and thoughts. I have further inquiry in the form of an argument and questions listed below:

#1) The obsession with the girl. If that obsession were to be present now regarding my projects, that would actually be a blessing. That's the problem here, I am not obsessed. I can do it, but it's just like washing the dishes. You know, I feel nothing.
I think I meant it in terms of 'experiencing the relationship'. Just as you rightly concluded that your relationship with the girl should just be experienced, so I think there may be a counsel here to experience your relationship with your art. Art is passion and a process of self discovery (I think) so with that in mind..

This is core to why I asked about the value of the projects, since worth-wise (personal value) it has nothing. How then does this reading apply to my situation?

What do you mean it has no value? You mean, because at the moment you feel ambivalent about the stuff you make? That doesn't mean that it doesn't have value, it just means you are experiencing an unusual attitude towards your art, and by unusual I mean something you are not accustomed to experiencing.

#2) Preconceived idea. Of course there must be an idea else everything will just wound about and progress wildly, right? So this must be regarding expectations? Does your interpretation imply that expecting something out from these projects is pointless since they will mean nothing?

I meant that expecting things to turn out a certain way is probably not the way to go. I am not much of an artist myself but I do enjoy creating and I find that it never ever turns out the way I originally thought it would. For me, the joy is in the process of creation and waiting to find out what it will look like - a discovery. Yes, you can have an idea to start with but then you have to be a little bit open and flexible as to where that idea takes you. It's a journey.

#3)Right frame of mind. This is somewhat disturbing. I know it is right to be productive, and I know being creative is part of who I am. So desiring to enjoy my creativity should not be a wrong frame of mind. Therefore, does this imply again that I should forget even asking the question altogether?

No, you need to ask the question because this is something that is bothering you and it wants to be explored. Being in a right frame of mind regarding anything is about being your authentic self. Also applies to question below:

#4) Inner Stability. This form of stability is unnerving. I feel separate from who I was, or at least know I am. It just doesn't make sense that someone could suddenly lose interest on the things he is utterly passionate about. I'm not in a sense dead inside, rather, dispassionate. It's like I'm numb or something. So, what is Inner Stability? How does it apply to my situation? Any examples?
Well, maybe you need to stop and explore this feeling of numbness. It is there for a reason. Something has caused it. Usually, one would explore it through art, but I don't know if you feel like you can do that right now. Although going back to your hexagram, I would be almost tempted to suggest you explore this new feeling of lack of passion through experimenting with an art form you haven't tried before. Something entirely new to you.

#5) Depression. Well, the word is dreadful. The fact about it is I'm worried that I've reached this point in my path. There's nothing I feel about these things I absolutely loved and fought for. This is regarding only my art projects of course. It's more of like watching a part of you just die, but that's all I really have and treasure the most. If I have no other interest, and this has somehow "died", then, OMG!!!

Just because you feel that way about your projects now, doesn't mean you will always feel that way about them. It really does sound to me like you are experiencing some sort of personal growth. Often, just before we reach a next level, so to speak, the present reality starts to seem drab and unappealing to us - this can be like a little sign from the Universe that we need to take a step up.

I have some questions also about the lines:
1. What does it mean to "give duration to one's character"?
2. What does it mean to "give duration through perseverance"?

1. duration to one's character? hm. I am not keen on Wilhem much for this, I prefer Lise's take on this line: "not always a steady character is the best one. Sometimes one has to explore the world, change situations, find new experiences. Or maybe one's character has not found its own shape yet. In other times or places it is better to be steady. So don't ask the gods what to be once and for all, but ask every time anew. "

Personally, I think that always trying to be the best that we can be, however big or small or wonky or straight that may be is the way to go about this.

2. perseverance just means keep going. Good habits and bad habits are both formed in the same way - by repeatedly doing the same thing over and over.

Who we are is not something that is set in stone and I always think that the whole point of life is to experience as many ways of being who we are as we can. For example, you and I could be working on the same project. Say, we are in the art class painting the same model. Your painting and my painting will be different. Your experience of viewing the model and painting the model will be different to mine. And tomorrow, both of us will experience it in still a different way - to me, this is the art of life :)

I don't know if my comments have helped at all or confused you even more but hope you figure it out, just give yourself time and don't be too hard on yourself :hug:
 

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