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I'm wondering to know if there is a chance to a reunion with my ex and if it is a good thing for me.
The I ching give to me this answer : 18.5.6 turn into 22.
Hi Rosada, your answer is bitter but probably it is not far away from the reality. He has a very difficult relationship with father and his mother dotes on him. When I decided to leave him because he won't to live our relationship as I want i.e. "in society", he surrendered. He only said and said that I was running (after 10 months?). He didn't wan't to lose me but he didn't do anything to change my decision too. A month is passed but he never contact me and I start to think that I'm not the woman for whom fight for. Hope that for me it will pass soon. Your reading is so helpful like that of Daeluin, so i would to say thank you!I see 18.5 and 18.6 as emphasizing that the problem is with man's allowing his life partner choices to be dictated by parents.
18.5 The father's rules are inappropriate for the son.
18.6 The son needs to decide for himself what he wants rather than trying to please the "higher ups."
Together I see these hexagrams as saying the problem isn't the parents and definitely not your age but rather that the boyfriend THINKS his parents know better what is right for him. If there is a chance of the two of you reuniting it will be because he comes to realize he must follow his own inner guidance.
Unless and until that happens 22. says it's better your vision of being with this man-child remains a fantasy.
Not a problem! It was fun to work out and play with interpreting what that answer might have held for your situation. The 18 to 22 reading still works with the same hexagram, and so we still have a dynamic of correction at play, but the answer may be very different. Since lines 1 and 2 are the lines involved in this reading's dynamic of change I would not seek hope from the reading given for lines 5 and 6 changing.I wished I was wrong in 22 instead of 48. But to be honest it's my fault to write 18.5.6 instead of write 18.1.2 since the throwing start from the bottom to up.
You're welcome. We can just do the same thing with lines 1 and 2.So, I mean, I would to thank you very much and I appreciate if you eventually want to add any else
So it is all of it swimming against the current, and this would appear to be part of the answer the question about if this would be good for you.
The I ching give to me this answer : 18.5.6 turn into 22. inner hex is 24.6 turn into 54.
Inner hexagram? What is that? You haven't cast 24.6 have you nor 54.1?As I said also to Daeluin the hex was 18,1,2 instead of 18,5,6 because it goes from bottom to up.Inner hex is 54.1
I want to show you also the throwing i've done a week before the last one i shared with you.
The answer was been 126.96.36.199.5.6 turn into 1!
Hi Julie,Hi it's me again on my ex..yes I know..it's better not to force the I Ching's response about our problems again and again...But.. I want to show you also the throwing i've done a week before the last one i shared with you. I don't understood very well it, so that's why i tried once more. The question was: Given the situation of no contact, what should I expect now? The answer was been 188.8.131.52.5.6 turn into 1! Nuclear Hex 24. What does it means 7? and why? Could Hex 1 suggests a new life for me? does Hex 24 can refers to a "come back to my essence"? I think that the two throwings were connecting but 7..it's hard to understand.Ok I'm done. Really that's all about my love breakup. Thanks to everyone who will help me!
I agree with you. I wanted to know why 7. Maybe 7 it's the key. This cast underline to me the urgence to be in charge in this situation and in my life (as I supposed) and to move on. Probably if I had understood this, I would not have even made the cast already commented on in recent days. I appreciate very much your answer. Thank youmy personal impressions: 7 is "The Army". 5 changing lines suggests a great dynamic and potential for change in your situation, which in itself is already an embodiment of the relating hexagram 1 "THE CREATIVE". Pure yang. Dynamic potential.
Hi Daeluin, no problem and thank you very much for your tipBut at first glance, we see that it is a hexagram with 5 yin lines, and all 5 yin lines are active. Sometimes in cases like this we are being drawn to look at a pattern it is showing us, something about how all of these lines have in common, or something like that.
The question was: Given the situation of no contact, what should I expect now? The answer was been 184.108.40.206.5.6 turn into 1!
I'll quote here from Cleary's translation of Liu Yiming's The Taoist I Ching regarding the hexagram as a whole, as this perspective helps understand why this reading makes sense:
For the leader of the army to be right, a mature person is good; then there is no error.
The army is a group. This had the meaning of one person leading a group. The qualities of the hexagram are earth above, submissive, and water below, dangerous. Following obediently in danger, it is therefore called the army. This hexagram represents using yang to drive back yin; it follows on the previous hexagram waiting. Waiting is advancing yang in accord with the time, and advancing yang is the way to drive yin back.
The method of repelling yin is to get rid of wrong by means of right, to destroy falsehood by truth, like righteousness in the leader of an army. The "leader of the army" is the way of punishment and execution; it requires both firmness and flexibility, both humanity and justice, command of authority and ability to change, in order to be effective. Otherwise, if one can be firm but not flexible, or if one is only humance and does not know how to apply justice, or if one is only dutiful and does not know how to act humanely, none of this is right, and without correctness good fortune cannot be attained -- instead one will provoke censure.
Only mature and developed people understand good and bad, distinguish wrong from right, know what bodes well and what bodes ill, perceive when to hurry and when to relax, are not confined to either firmness or flexibility, apply both humanity [benevolence] and justice [righteousness] together, are able to obey in danger and by obedience neutralize danger, use the temporal to restore the primordial, use the primordial to transmute the temporal, not only do not let yin trap yang, but even get all yin to follow yang -- this is the path of good fortune without error.
If people are immature, their perception of truth is not clear. They do not distinguish wrong from wright, and so enter aberrated detours. They set out impulsively and not only are unable to make yin retreat, they even accentuate yin. They are sure to bring on error; how can they effect good results and achieve the Tao?
When people have not yet lost the primordial, this is pure natural reality. It is like when the nation is at peace -- even if there are intelligent knights and good generals, there is no need for them. Then when people get mixed up in acquired conditioning, their senses trouble them and their emotions run wild. It is like when there is trouble in the land, with rebels causing disturbance; if there is no way of rooting them out by punishment and execution, it is impossible to restore peace in perilous times.
Therefore the method of striving in spiritual alchemy is to burn away all the pollution of acquired conditioning, and not let the slightest flaw remain in the heart, so that one may eventually reexperience original completeness. This is why the path of direction is valued.
This idiom comes from a tale told in several classics including the Han Fei Zi. The king of Wei was preparing to send Pang Gong to Han Dan. Pang Gong asked him: If someone told your majesty there was a tiger in the market would you believe them? 'No,' said the king. What if two people said it? 'I would doubt their report,' he answered. And if three people said it? 'Then I would believe them.' Pang Gong pointed out that if this was true about the local market, how much more so far off in Han Dan (in present day Hebei). Sure enough, when Pang Gong was in Han Dan people spread rumors about him and when he returned to Wei the king would no longer grant him an audience.
This even is recounted in the Shi Ji, in the Gan Mou section about the mother of Zeng Zi, a student of Kong Zi: "Long ago, when the philosopher Zeng Can was living in Bi, an inhabitant of Lu who had the same surname and given name as Zen Can killed a man. Someone came to Zeng Can's mother and said, 'Zen Can killed a man!' but his mother went on weaving just as before. After a while someone else came and said, 'Zen Can killed a man!' but still his mother went on with her weaving. After a while, however, when a third person came and said 'Zeng Can killed a man!', his mother dropped her shuttle, scrambled down from the loom, climbed over the wall and ran away. Worthy as Zen Can was, and as much as his mother trusted him, when three people cast suspicion on him, even his mother became frightened."
This thread is so long and muddly I was wondering if I could clear up a few facts about the situation with you and you can correct me where I am wrong? We have to keep an eye on the reality of situations, it's no use IMO getting carried to heaven and back by Yi answers when the reality won't allow certain things to happen.Hi it's me again on my ex..yes I know..it's better not to force the I Ching's response about our problems again and again...But.. I want to show you also the throwing i've done a week before the last one i shared with you. I don't understood very well it, so that's why i tried once more. The question was: Given the situation of no contact, what should I expect now? The answer was been 220.127.116.11.5.6 turn into 1! Nuclear Hex 24. What does it means 7? and why? Could Hex 1 suggests a new life for me? does Hex 24 can refers to a "come back to my essence"? I think that the two throwings were connecting but 7..it's hard to understand.Ok I'm done. Really that's all about my love breakup. Thanks to everyone who will help me!
So you gave him an ultimatum and he chose to stay with his security. That is what happened by my reckoning. This isn't just a case of a man you met you argued with. You are 'arguing' with an entire culture and I wouldn't think you stand a chance of winning. And that's okay, you have to see it pragmatically, it's not entirely about him rejecting you as a person but more like he doesn't want to reject his whole family/culture/inheritance.Maybe because he take consciousness that is impossible to continue it, because off he is original from India upper class and his family wants he will marry a woman like them (i.e. rich and indian) or because off the age difference: I'm 40 he is 33.
Going back to this for a moment. He's at a critical age isn't he, 30. I don't know a huge amount about Indian upper class families but I have the idea dynasty matters to them and they will want their son to have children with a woman they approve of who comes from their class of society. They surely won't approve you unless you are in that category.We had a beautiful story started 10 months ago. At first time i didnt won't to continue then i felt something for him. The story ended for a stupid mess, that was only an excuse.Maybe because he take consciousness that is impossible to continue it, because off he is original from India upper class and his family wants he will marry a woman like them (i.e. rich and indian) or because off the age difference: I'm 40 he is 33.
No It's not me at all. It's my first LONG postI'm gleaning all that from the first post and possibly other threads, possibly you were here before, not sure.
it's not entirely about him rejecting you as a person but more like he doesn't want to reject his whole family/culture/inheritance.
he doesn't want to jeopardise all that for the sake of his 'illicit' relationship with you. In that case he's just a common coward, nothing romantic about it at all
You asked if he will return to you and got 18.1.2>22. Ordinary every day logic says no he won't, he's chosen his upper class family and it's values and money. If he returns to you it is only to you as a 'mistress'. You don't want that I imagine.
Probably you're right. But I'm not hopeless. My life move on and i'm grateful to loved and lived this experience that has given me so much for better or worse.The readings must surely be understood with that as a backdrop. I'd say if that is the situation and you haven't heard from him you have your answer. I think 18.1.2>22 speaks quite eloquently of the whole family thing
Oh no I didn't mean you bored me, I was meaning I was getting a bit muddled and I wanted to get some clarity on the actual situation because the thing is we can get lost in the nuances of readings and lose sight of the situation in real life when we do need to factor that in almost like an anchor. In relationship questions especially we need that anchor.I apologize if I had over expose my story and bore you.
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