Lockdown and dating app

[ymoshietsu]

Hello everyone,

In France a new lockdown has been imposed by Macron and so I can't see any people ! I had a discussion with a friend on the situation and he told me to put myself on dating app to meet people but I don't like dating app because to me it seems unatural contrary to meet someone in " Real Life " So I asked some questions about this particular situation.

should I listen to my friend's advice and sign up for an online dating application ?

I got Hex 1.3.5 > 38

I think hexagram 1 is refering to my power to create a relashionship and 38 is a context (it show my divergence of opinion with my friend about dating app)

Line 3 :
Legge: In the third line, dynamic, we see its subject as the superior man active and vigilant all the day, and in the evening still careful and apprehensive. The position is dangerous, but there will be no mistake.
Wilhelm/Baynes: All day long the superior man is creatively active. At nightfall his mind is still beset with cares. Danger. No blame.
Blofeld: The superior man busies himself the whole day through and evening finds him thoroughly alert. Trouble threatens, but he is not at fault.

Line 5 :
Legge: The fifth dynamic line shows its subject as the dragon on the wing in the sky. It will be advantageous to meet with the great man.
Wilhelm/Baynes: Flying dragon in the heavens. It furthers one to see the great man.
Blofeld: The dragon wings across the sky; it is advantageous to visit a great man.

I think this referring to the danger of those apps and I have to be careful with my words and my actions, this is why line 5 talk about the great man, this is pearhaps referring to my friend.

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So I went deeper into the question by asking if I should install X application (X = name of the app) to meet someone and build a harmonious relationship ?

First app, I got hex 44 UC

This response is pretty clear, I won't find a long term relationship and it will be sexual only

Legge: Temptation shows a female who is bold and strong. It will not be good to marry such a female.

Wilhelm/Baynes: Coming to Meet. The maiden is powerful. One should not marry such a maiden.

Blofeld: Contact. Women wield the power. Do not marry. [At this time marriage would be unfortunate; the husband would almost surely be henpecked.]

Liu: Encountering. The female is forceful. One should not marry her.

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Second app, I got hex 2.1>24

I don't understand the Hex 2 here, does h advice me to let other people contacting me ? and with the line 1 being very careful again ? Or it advice to break the ice (metaphorically). 24 is refering to who I am with my own rules, my inner self in context !

Legge: In the first line, magnetic, we see its subject treading on hoar-frost. The strong ice will come by and by.

Wilhelm/Baynes: When there is hoarfrost underfoot, solid ice is not far off.

Blofeld: Hoarfrost underfoot betokens the coming of solid ice.

Liu: When hoarfrost is underfoot, solid ice will soon come.

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Finally after seeing those answers, I asked one last question I had in my mind.

Should I let the universe introduce me to someone with whom I can build a harmonious relationship ?

I got hex 11 UC

hex 11 is a beautiful answer, this is the heaven sustaining the earth, and it's also the flow of events.. there is no obstruction like we can see in hex 12. According to this response, this is a call to stay calm that I have to let the flow follow it's course.

What do you think about my interpretation ? am I close ? than you very much !

Ymoshietsu

 

[marybluesky]

Hello;

I think 1.3.5 > 38 says a dating app can help you in this time of alienation, but it needs work: you should take your time and be active on the application until you find a suitable partner.

The reading aside, if you don't like this form of meeting people (neither do I) you're unlikely to put enough effort.

Not sure about 44 uc, however agree that it doesn't show a harmonious relationship.

2.1>24 puzzles me. Maybe it says you turn away from the idea soon?

And 11 uc shows it's totally OK to go with the flow of life.

Good luck

 

[IrfanK]

44 does caution against marrying (or courting) the maiden, but not against merely chatting with her online. I see this more as a warning about unrealistic expectations regarding a dating site. Entirely online relationships are notorious for allowing people to engage in extreme self deception. It's like one of those join-the-dots pictures: online, you can only see about six or seven dots, so you join the lines to create the picture you want to see. It's one of the reasons why scammers have such success. As one of them said in an interview, the victims were my accomplices in the deception. And you might be particularly vulnerable in a lockdown, particularly without much experience. But if you were able to keep it on a light footing, at the very least until you'd met in person, preferably half a dozen times, then you might be okay. It may be harder than it sounds, though. But friendly chats without unrealistic expectations might work out fine.

 

[charly]

... Not sure about 44 uc, however agree that it doesn't show a harmonious relationship ...

Hi Mary:

Depending on the context, 44.0 more than a warning to us about the dangers of deep commitment, could be an advice to be in tune with our ancestral identity, to be faithful to who we really are.

I use to read 44.0 not as casual encounter or irregular meeting but as a female ancestral title, like Queen, Princess or Lady.

All we, girls and boys, have an Ancestral Mother in the heights from whom we can receive a gift of friendliness, tolerance, love capacity, emotional intelligence. Beyond appearances that, as everyone knows, deceive.

Except for that detail, I fully agree with your reading and advices.

All the best,

Charly

 

[charly]

44 does caution against marrying (or courting) the maiden, but not against merely chatting with her online. I see this more as a warning about unrealistic expectations regarding a dating site ...

Hi Irfan:

As I've said Mary, there are alternative readings for 44.0, not against marrying women.

The received traditional text for 44.0:

姤 女壯。勿用取女。​

gou4 nu3 zhuang4 wu4 yong4 qu3 nu3 LADY: WOMAN STRONG. DO_NOT USE TO_GRAB WOMEN. The Ancestral Mother is a strong woman. Avoid grabbing women.​ 姤 gou4 is a compound of WOMAN + RULER (or QUEEN) in the style of Shang's female ancestral titles. It evolved to mean GOOD and FORNICATION. 女 nu3 means WOMAN, not necessarily in the sense of WIFE but YOUNG WOMAN, DAUGHTER, MAIDEN. It depicted a side view of a kneeling person. 壯 zuang4, STRONG, usually applied to MEN, not a female virtue at least not for the mainstream thought. There is another character zhuang meaning MAKE UP. 取 qu3 means to TAKE, to GRAB, to FETCH and depicts a HAND (at the right) grabbing an EAR (at the left). It is the protograph of the character that means to MARRY, to take a woman,

I advise to read Lotty LISE Heyboer, Margaret Pearson, David Hinton, the last two maybe in Google Books. (1)

All the best,

Charly
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(1) Hinton 44.0

From Google Books.

Ch.

 

[moss elk]

should I ...and sign up for ..the app?

First app, I got hex 44 UC

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Should I let the universe introduce me to someone with whom I can build a harmonious relationship ?

I got hex 11 UC

44 says no in this context.
11 says yes in this context.

About the 2.1,
off the top of my head,
and I could be wrong,
I wonder if it refers to the virus?
(things are going to get worse now with cold season coming, are many people actively dating now?)

 

[marybluesky]

@Charly your description of 44 reminds me of Queen of Cups in tarot.

Thanks for explanation. I had a similar feeling about the 44 woman: a queen, a lady.

While the hexagram clearly depicts a strong woman I wonder why sometimes it is regarded as a mere sexual relationship, bad for a woman as she's not getting married; while the strong lady is far beyond that. She's so powerful that not every man can be her companion.

 

[ymoshietsu]

Thank you very much all for your multiple answers. I'm very aware that it is necessary to be extremely vigilant with dating app, and I'm well prepared if some predators / fake profile etc.. show up. I'm just using the app to chat with people without having any particular expectations, only to build social ties with good people as a priority.

Hexagram 44 is (I think) one of the most scariest hexagram when you asked for "meeting", For me it's the symbolism of the female dominion over the male (emotional manipulative person, that kind of people)

11 seems to be pretty clear that my fate is not in my hand especially with the lockdown (how to meet people in your own house Lol !) and thank you Moss Elk to confirm what I was interpretating with this hexagram

2.1 puzzle me a lot too, (don't go out there, stay in your home, your inner self with 24) maybe it's a response with the situation to the virus as Moss Elk said. You all enlightened me with your insight thanks !

 

[ymoshietsu]

hello everyone,
I'm coming back to this topic to make an update that may be of benefit to the forum.

It's been a few weeks that I was on a dating application without really believing in it and following the hexagrams that had come out.

In a rather unexpected way, I finally met someone with whom I exchange a lot, an emotional connection has set up for her as well as for me despite some differences, but I noticed that it was possible to discuss and exchange on our points of view with a certain welcome and this seems to help us to reconcile a part of our "two worlds".

So I asked the Yi-jing if it was a good idea to follow this desire for a romantic relationship with the woman in question.

I got 38.2.4 > 27

I feel like it really fell right into place. The hexagram itself speaks of opinion divergences but the lines seem to converge towards the possibility of growing through this union (27) > both nourishing

Line 2 talks about an unexpected encounter in an alley (which probably refers to the accidental encounter on the application).

The second line from the bottom marked
As a result of misunderstandings, it has become impossible for people who by nature belong together to meet each other properly. However, an accidental meeting in informal circumstances can serve the purpose, provided there is an inner affinity between them."

Line 4 that our differences could help us grow and that this meeting must have what it deserves. I also think it refers to the loneliness of the lockdown. There is a way to progress and to begin a romantic relationship ( Confucius/Legge: Their common aim is carried into effect. Wilhelm/ Baynes: The will effects its purpose. Blofeld: What is said about mutual confidence and freedom from error indicates the fulfillment of what is willed. Ritsema/Karcher: Adversity, without fault. Mingling conforming, without fault. Purpose moving indeed. Cleary (2): Associate sincerely, and there will be no blame, for the aim will be carried out. Wu: With mutual trust there will be no error, because his wishes prevail.)

The 4th line from the bottom marked
If a man finds himself in the company of people from whom he is separated by inner opposition, he isolates himself. But if, in such a situation, a man meets someone who, fundamentally, by the very law of his being, is close to him, and in whom he can trust completely, he overcomes all the dangers of isolation. His will reaches its goal and he frees himself from his faults.

What's also kind of funny is that we installed these dating apps when we both hate to have done it this way.

I also find that interesting post on Hilary's blog

Nourished by synchronicity: 38 zhi 27

The relating hexagram, the one revealed by the moving line changes, can show the aspect or quality of the cast hexagram embodied in those lines. One way to imagine this is to say to yourself, 'The reading shows how [primary hexagram] might do [relating hexagram].' That works well in readings, becaus

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In conclusion, I think the Yi says that even if we have some differences, some agreement could be found and there is a deep connection despite all.

Is my interpretation correct ? Thank you for reading me