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Hi all,
This is my first post here. You have a great forum with lots of interesting discussions. Been around awhile and decided to join.
I’m not very experienced regarding I Ching and according to the person introduce it to me, you never can say that. A year ago , pondering on whether I will say yes to a cooperation with some people, although everything looked perfect I had a hunch that something wasn’t as it looked. I throw the coins and Yi, although I had neglected it for years * blush*, was kind enough to give me 8.3. Time show that this hunch was correct and it safe me from lots of troubles. That was the phase II of the relationship between Yi and me.

End of introduction… :)

Somedays ago, Yi gave me 20.3.4 >33 as an answer to a question regarding a friend of mine and his attitude. BTW, the question was “why he behaves to me like that”. He is almost rude, something that is new to me. He has his tempers sometimes ( a bit more than an average person) but now is something else. One day he is sweet and caring and the next grumpy. I care a lot about him and I have asked him ( more than once) if his has personal problems, or if I have done something wrong and offend him. He said no. His behavior is very confusing and sometimes makes me mad, but I try keep my anger. One of us must be calm, I think

I struggle to understand Yi’s reply, but haven’t understand it yet. Line 20.3 makes sense “Decides the choice. Between advance and retreat”. Those changes in his mood looks like advancing and retreat. Probably something concerns him and he is not ready to talk or he doesn’t want
On the other hand , line 20.4 makes not sense at all.
Hexagram 33, might say that there is something “threatening and he tries to protect him from that. Could be me or something else, I have no clue .

I also asked “what is the best approach I should follow”

56.1.3 to 21 .
56.1 A wanderer should not demean himself. Well, maybe I do that. ( I call it patience)

56.3 : I feel like a stranger in his land, this is true. Could it be that it shouldn’t concern me because I harm my self. ?

Relating hexagram 21 : could it be that I should be less passive/patient and try to bite through. Have a open discussion and express my feeling and how his behavior hurts me ?

Maybe it is irrelevant, but his behavior became worse, after I told him that I’m in an affair. There is not a romantic relationship between me and my friend, we are strictly friends but there is a coincidence that I can’t explain.

If there is anything you can say that might clarify my readings please do. Feel free to point any mistakes you see in my interpretation

Many thanks
Malena
 

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Welcome Malena,

Why he behaves this way?
20. Contemplate your responsibility.
20.3 Consider what you may have done to lead this man to think he is some sort of special friend who can do no wrong.
20.4 Describes someone very special, but here it could be discribing someone who is a bit of a spoiled brat - someone who THINKS "he is the light of the kingdom," maybe he even thinks he is more important than a boyfriend. If this is the case maybe you need to 33. Retreat, that is, not allow him such a close friendship.

I wonder if it would be useful to consider the hexagrams for the viewpoint that HE is the 56. Wanderer? His moods are ruining your friendship and certainly if he's got an attitude about you having a boyfriend he is meddling in affairs that do not concern him, 56.3.
21. says "The kings of former times made firm the laws through clearly defined penalties." I think this is advising you to point out to him when you find his behavior offensive - he may think he's just joking with you, 56.1 - and let him know that you are going to leave or hang up if he doesn't cut it out.

Nice to have you with us.
Rosada
 
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He behaves arrogant and selfish because he thinks primarily of himself, he wants to be acknowledge as someone special and important and will now back down in any arguments or disagreements that you will/have had. A man of self importance.

Back of and let me be, don't humiliate yourself by trying to discover what make this guy tick, if he wants to act like a king then let him, what's the point of arguing with him over this issue.
 

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Rosada and Willowfox , thank you for your help. I need more time to chew on what you said.

Rosada : 20.3 Consider what you may have done to lead this man to think he is some sort of special friend who can do no wrong.

He is a very special friend for me and I believe he knows that. But what you said makes me think of the times in the past we had some discussion and I felt that I had the responsibility of the misunderstandings. Somehow I agreed, with my behaviour, that he is flawless. Maybe it is not how exactly things really are.

The affair I have is not a serious one, so I can’t understand why he might feel threatened. There is not a logical reason for that. But aside that, (if the affair is not the issue), what concerns me , is not to put the blame to me or him. Just want to understand what is the problem.

Going back to the lines and read them again.

Thank you
 

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Malena,
I think the friend you describe is treating you in a way that doesnt serve your interests at all. YES,It could be very relevant that you are involved with another man romantically .....and this man is jealous. In any case, i feel the 56.3 points out to you that altho the man has been a friend to you, he is not anymore, at least for right now under these circumstances. This may be unusual for you to experience and hard to fathom (that it is not YOUR fault) 56.1
21 is about justice, perhaps emotional justice. He is being unfair to you, and you should not take the bait, or take the blame, or allow yourself to be too soft and forgiving of this kind of behavior.
 

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Opss ! I missed that.

Thank you Bamboo. I talked to a common friend of us the other day. I didn’t bring the issue but he asked me if I know something because he finds his behavior weird too.
I just hope he is OK. , as for our friendship, we will see.

Thanks again all of you
 

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