Repeated Hex 36 . Where do I stand in my feelings?

[Torshavn]

Hello,

I am a little confused about my readings and receiving repeatedly the hex 36. Perhaps could you help me to interpret it or share your experience of the Hex 36 about relationships and feelings? My reading feels like a loop...



So I have been asking to the Iching insights?

• Where I stand in my feeling with X? 36.4.6 > 30
• Where I stand in my feeling with Z ? 36.2 > 11

Where I stand in my feeling with X 36.4.6 to 30

36.4 : Sounds like a bad omen
"He penetrates the left side of the belly. One gets at the very heart of the darkening of the light, and leaves gate and courtyard."
>> I am not sure to understand this line.This line make me think about a separation but it's not clear at all. I am not sure to understand the symbolism of the "left side of the belly". Any insights?

36.6 Not light but darkness. First he climbed up to heaven, then he plunged into the depths of the earth >>> I don't understand that one at all...

30 : Sounds like a good omen. The advice sounds like the need to take care of the relationship.



Where I stand in my feeling with X 36.2 > 11

36.2 : Sounds like an incompatibility by nature.
11: Not sure if it means that at some points i will feel released.

 

[Trojina]

Where I stand in my feeling with X 36.4.6 to 30

You have gained insight and clarity about X (30) So you are now looking at X not with naive eyes but you are realising this person isn't maybe that good for you?

36 can often show up as an alert that one is the injured party. 36 counsels to hide one's light in order to stay safe in dark times but many times also it calls attention to what is injuring you.

Now I cannot say if this person does harm you, only you know but this answer does look like you are finally beginning to see hidden agendas that may not be in your interests and I think this is what line 4 points to. It says

'Entering into the left belly,
Catching the heart of brightness hiding.
Moving to go out of the gate from the courtyard.'

Very often the line depicts situations of almost undercover viewing/espionage, finding out about a place or person or situation without them knowing you know. This is where discovering what is harmful, realising things you hadn't let yourself know before is actually a good thing. It's also not a time to linger, you take that knowledge and remove yourself.

Line 6

'Not bright, dark.
At first rises up to heaven,
Later enters into the earth.'

This is where what shone brightly shows it's other side. It's a bit like 'falling from grace' and of course this line alone leads to 22. There is stuff about appearances here, you see the perfection of a person and then you see their devilish side. The good thing is there's no illusions now you can see both dark and light.

And that's where the 30 comes in. In 30 you grasp what's happening, you see. I think you have seen this person for who they are and also possibly seen your own motivations in regard to them for what they are.

Also perhaps there's a lull now while you process this situation, change patterns 35 and 5

Where I stand in my feeling with X 36.2 > 11

36.2 : Sounds like an incompatibility by nature.
11: Not sure if it means that at some points i will feel released.

You mean Z? It's another different person right? You wrote Z initially in the first post but here say X.

This doesn't say anything about incompatibility. It says

'Brightness hiding, injured in the left thigh.
Use a strong horse for rescue.
Good fortune.'

Again you are in the injured territory of 36 but here in line 2 Yi urges you to save yourself from it, using a strong horse. At first I wondered if person Z was actually saving you in some sense from person X.

It could be saying that, or it could be advice to save yourself from injury here or it could be this person is someone who saves you. Which is it most likely to be?


Basically 36.2 is saying 'yes you have been hurt but let's make it better using a lot of good strong energy (horse) and be vigorous about it. I'm not sure if Z is the horse here or if if is saying to use a good horse to get clear from injury from Z. That is something only you can tell from your position inside the situation, I can't evaluate that from my perspective.

 

[Torshavn]

36 can often show up as an alert that one is the injured party. 36 counsels to hide one's light in order to stay safe in dark times but many times also it calls attention to what is injuring you.

Now I cannot say if this person does harm you, only you know but this answer does look like you are finally beginning to see hidden agendas that may not be in your interests and I think this is what line 4 points to. It says

Trojina, thank you. Your analysis is extremely relevant. It gives me insights about the entire situations.

X did not harm me voluntarily. It is a relationship that has been fulfilling for years but where I feel we grew a little apart. It could be temporary or not. The relationship is getting cold with time. From the outside, the relationship looks like very good but I can feel ultimately a lack connexion at the emotional level. This hurts me. Like a disillusion.

The hex 30 as you described it, feels exactly how things are. We know each other very well..

Z helps me but he is disrupting my relationship with X, because I can feel an emotional connexion with this person. So for this reason 36.2 feels like both - an advice to save myself from injury here - but also someone who is shaking up the status quo.


I decided to ask about their feelings about me and the situation. I know it's could not be very accurate, as " who know what they feels", but I decided to ask to gain more insights.

What does X feels about me / the situation? 60.3 >5
What does Z feels about me / the situation? 13.5 > 30 ( again hexagram 30...)


X feelings 60.3 >5 "He who knows no limitation
Will have cause to lament.
No blame."

Who feels limited here? Me or him?

Hex 5 Nourishment sounds more positive and sounds more familiar to me about X who is very patient, silently persistant...


Z feelings 13.5 >30 "Men bound in fellowship first weep and lament,
But afterward they laugh.
After great struggles they succeed in meeting."

This sounds like a connexion but it does not sounds like "in the mood for love". Much more like similarities of mind and soul, common interests like student/teacher, but equals at the same time. Am I right?

30 again...but in another context the image "The image of FIRE.
Thus the great man, by perpetuating this brightness,
Illumines the four quarters of the world."

"Perpetuating this brightness" makes me feel confused. Because the previous readings talks about " Brightness Hidden" here it sounds really opposite.


Advice? What should I learn from the situation? 39.6 > 53

39.6 The situation feels like a trap, with no way out.

53 feels like the light in slowly coming back after the darkness.Gradual Progress also suggests that the situation will develop ...perhaps on a positive note?

 

[Torshavn]

Also perhaps there's a lull now while you process this situation, change patterns 35 and 5

Trojina, I have been reading again and again your explanations. The description of the situation is so accurate.

I am not sure how to understand the "change pattern" hexagram 35 and 5. I been reading the post about change patterns and did understood that it's an added dimension to the reading.


You have been writing " The yang pattern can be seen as that which brings you to ask the question. I like to look at it as I often find ‘ah that’s what this is really about, this is why I asked’. The yin pattern can be seen as the way to move on through the problem or situation."

Should I understand then that active " Waiting" is the proper way to move from the problem?
I also apologize for all my silly questions...I ching is so deep and ccomplex. Thank you again

 

[Trojina]

I wouldn't want to go so far as to say 5 as yin pattern is telling you to wait. Afterall you didn't cast 5 as the primary answer. But I'd expect a lull perhaps in the issue.

You say 'way to move from the problem' but you didn't ask for a way to move from the problem for that reading you asked where you stand in your feelings with X.

Overall it looks like it's gradually dawning on you how perhaps X isn't always so good for you. At some point you will make a decision about that but maybe you aren't ready yet.

 

[Torshavn]

Troj

I wouldn't want to go so far as to say 5 as yin pattern is telling you to wait. Afterall you didn't cast 5 as the primary answer. But I'd expect a lull perhaps in the issue.

You say 'way to move from the problem' but you didn't ask for a way to move from the problem for that reading you asked where you stand in your feelings with X.

You are right so I asked how to move from the problem... and got 34.4 > 11
..Thank you again for all your suggestions, insights and explanations