Should I change my job? - Hexagram 14 Lines 3, 4 - changing to Hexagram 41

[Music-Man]

I asked the I Ching "Is it time to change my job" and got Hexagram 14 Lines 3, 4 - changing to Hexagram 41. I would like to invite people to kindly comment on what these 2 hexagrams are saying. The first seems to be saying yes but the second says decrease? Thanks in advance.

 

[equinox]

First give some feedback on your other threads please. How did it all end?

 

[Music-Man]

It hasn't ended yet I am just thinking whether to change job or not.

 

[Music-Man]

It hasn't ended yet I am just thinking whether to change job or not.

It hasn't ended yet I am just thinking whether to change job or not.

 

[equinox]

I am not the disciplinarian of this forum, but only today we discussed that it is a pity that some people only come to get some advice and are never seen again (until they seek advice again )
So it would be nice if you gave us feedback how the stories in your last two threads ended. It would be a treasure of knowledge for us. I already commented on your threads.

 

[Music-Man]

Thank you for your interest black milk. It's much appreciated.

Firstly, the I Ching as been a very good friend of mine for more than 25 years. I usually manage to interpret readings well. But of course, there's no sure way of telling sometimes. I do not come on here just to get advice! Just on the odd occasion when I cannot understand some readings, or some of the confusing lines. I don't have much time to come on here unfortunately.

In relation to the question of 'Should I change my job'. I simply threw this question to the I Ching in a random way, albeit with something in mind. I did not openly give background to the I Ching when asking my question. I have my own interpretation about most of what it's saying but I wanted to throw it for other people to interpret, to see if I myself fully understand what's being said.

As you say, it seems to have given me an interesting reply!

The background is this:

I work for a big company through an agency. I get paid by the agency and get a lot of work with the big company. Over the years the big company has expressed interest in me working for them directly. This could possibly mean more money and better profit for me. However, I am in contract to the agency, which makes changing a bit difficult. So I recently had this thought: to sell my place and buy a new place quite a distance away which would make it easier for me to to approach or be approached by this big company so I could work for them directly.

In posting the question for interpretation on here, I wondered what other member's views are, as I'd like to compare it to mine.

I hope this helps.

 

[Music-Man]

Members might be interested to know that I use 3 books for divination. The Pocket I Ching by Richard Wilhelm, The I Ching Plain & Simple by Stephen Karcher, and The Everyday I Ching by Sarah Denning.

 

[Music-Man]

Just a correction on the question I asked!

I actually asked 'Is it time to change my job?'.

 

[equinox]

Just a correction on the question I asked!

I actually asked 'Is it time to change my job?'.

It's difficult to interpret a "yes" or "no"question, since the result could now refer to both situations, going or staying, and I can't know which of them two.
Better would be to ask "What kind of potential lies in my new job opportunity" or "What will happen if I change my job."
I'll try. Hopefully others will share their opinion too.

14.3 --> could mean that either staying or going will mean to bring a great sacrifice in your life. So check which of both options would mean a greater sacrifice and if you are willed to make it.
14.4 -- > your decision should be independent from a desire to gain prestige. So don't go (or stay) if it is predominantely about social status.
Otherwise you could lose something else --> hexagram 41

 

[Trojina]

14.3.4>41

it depends, you'd have to weigh the pros and cons in terms of what you can afford (14.3) In 14.3 one is asked whether one can be like Prince and be generous or not ? It's a neutral line, a line that asks you a question.

Line 4 says something like 'it is not for you to dominate' meaning I think 'can you really follow your own will on this ?' . You may not have a choice about changing your job anyway.

With 41 as backdrop I'd say in order to change your job sacrifices would have to be made, although they need not be huge ones.

In general then this cast asks you to consider what you'd gain and lose by changing jobs.

It isn't a prediction, it hands the decision back to you

Crossed posts with Blackmilk

 

[equinox]

In general then this cast asks you to consider what you'd gain and lose by changing jobs.

I think this is a good summary. Contemplate over it for a while. And if you are still unsure, then ask the I-Ching again, for example in the way I suggested in my posting above.

 

[equinox]

The following is just guessing, since 14.4 is particulary mysterious to me.

Legge: The fourth line, dynamic, shows its subject keeping his great resources (your work?) under restraint (the agency?). There will be no error.

Legge:The strength of line four is tempered by his position in a magnetic place. Hence he will do no injury to the mild ruler just above him.

Is your agency a "mild ruler"? So are you satisfied working together with them and it's 'just' the thought of more money which makes you wanna leave?

Trojina quoted hilary saying 'it is not for you to dominate' -- could this mean, that you shouldn't work independently?
Maybe I-ching wants to tell you, that your life is easier when you work with an agency. Money is not everything, as we all know.
But this is just guessing, as I said! I can't know if your agency is good to you or if they exploit you respectively if the co-operation is a good or a bad deal for you altogether.

 

[Music-Man]

Indecently, I asked a related question (as a previous question to this current one) Is it a good idea to move to to 'X' town next year and got 57,6 changing to 48. I wonder if this sheds any light?

On the work, I get well looked after by the agency. But at the same time I need to reduce my mortgage substantially. Hence the desire to combine a move with changing who I work for.

 

[Music-Man]

Thanks black milk, maui and Trojina for your insight so far.

Just another thought on Decrease, hexagram 48. Could this refer to my mortgage.

 

[Trojina]

It's the whole thing, the whole economic situation of your life you have to weigh the pros and cons for.

Indecently, I asked a related question (as a previous question to this current one) Is it a good idea to move to to 'X' town next year and got 57,6 changing to 48. I wonder if this sheds any light?

Sounds like you think we could shed more light but the first answer I think is asking you questions of what you can afford, of what is possible, of what is practical. That's work for you to do.

You wrote 'indecently' indecent ? I guess you may have meant 'incidentally' ? Indecently means something, well indecent.

57.6 is a line of over thinking, of being indecisive to the point of paralysis. So it seems to me you aren't thinking as effectively as you might about of this. It sounds like a contradiction. I say your answer is asking you questions to think about and then another answer says you are over thinking. But there are kinds of thinking. 57.7 thinking is worrying, re-digging holes over and over again, fretting. So when you asked this question Yi was viewing you as someone who had sort of lost the plot a bit in the sense you keep going over options without using the power of your own mind to come to any clarity.

I think the kind of thinking Yi may be suggesting more is good clear look at your assets (14.3). Very often in 14.3 I find I can actually afford what I think I can't. That's not always the case but you will know with some clear thinking what you can afford and what you can't. The 14.4 suggests there are some things you simply don't call the shots on anyway, things beyond your control. So you are looking to find a balance between the risk of loss and the potential of change.

 

[Music-Man]

Thanks Trojina. On your interpretation 'some things you simply don't call the shots on anyway' fits the situation. In that 1. I haven't applied for a new mortgage yet and don't know if I'll get it, albeit being only a small one, (compared to what I owe at the moment). And 2. I haven't yet spoken to the 'great man' at the 'big company' to confirm that if I did move, whether he/they would use me. The big company has work all over the Uk, the agency not so much.

On the thinking, I am naturally over analytical! As you said, the I Ching has tuned into this. I never ever take anything for granted.

I guess the next action would be to apply to see if I would get the mortgage I'm looking for and to speak with the great man at the big company.

Apologies for the typo 'incidentally'. that's what I meant to write.