Some numerical consideration

[Herny Zahir]

1,2, 63 and 64 are astrnomical coordinates.
3 to 13 is a week
4 to 16 is a month
5 to 25 is a longer month
6 to 36 is the longest month
7 to 56 is tne lunar months
1 to 2 is 2 season change.
2 to 1 is 2 season change
there are arithmetic progressions
geometrical progressions
harmonical progresion
there are 32 pairs
there a 4 groups of 16 (season)
there are 8 groups of 8
hexagram pairs but it also mirrors, and rotates
everything is written in a language
with multiple meanings for the same symbol
the list goes on and becomes
increasinly crazy with non rationals, constants and 6 dimensional movement.
if imagined as a figure it would look probably like a gigant doughnut moving like a doble helix torus.

somebody please talk to me about rules... What kind of rules apply here? mistic words of phony wisdom to delay a respond or data that will make you feel like slapped by reality and getting angry and ready to fight back? Yea yeah Love questions. I know. Its so sad.

 

[Herny Zahir]

Additional part:

Qian gua, fan yao, opposite, reversed and more
The Big Pattern (The Bagua cards of Boering)
The Ming Tang Temple (Bagua cards 2)
Relations between hexagrams
King Wen's sequence
Multiple lines changing
The Hidden Pattern (the Gritter grid)
Memory wheels and other alternative consulting techniques
The eight palaces
Lines and chakras
Nuclear hexagrams

can be induced via programming for an outcome, but the cannot explain why they use methods completly arbitrary when it comes to structural unit or concept as a whole. Many are not really related to the hexagram as much as the similarities could mean something more profound if they were connected in shape. But shape is another of the many dimensions of I CHING. What rules apply to them, how is rotation part of line moving?

 

[Herny Zahir]

An average moon month will be 29.5 days.
An average sun month will be 31,4 days long.
the difference is 1,9 days long. In btween a changimg phases.
This is not to count gravittional incluence oJ Jppiter how interact between these periods?

 

[blewbubbles]

These are really interesting. Thank you for the effort. To add to you interesting list of numerological relationships, and to answer some of your questions about rules:

Here is a list of the 32 paired hexagrams when all six lines change. For example, when all six yang lines in hexagram 1 (Ch'ien) change, you have six yin lines, or hexagram 2 (K'un).

The first group of six in the following list form a sequence: 999999, 999996, 999966, 999666, 996666, 966666.

Nine pairs are neighbours in the I Ching Text (marked with *).


1-2*
43-23
34-20
11-12*
19-33
24-44

13-7
49-4
55-59

25-46
17-18*
51-57

42-32
3-50

10-15
58-52
54-53*

9-16
5-35
6-36

14-8

21-48
22-47

26-45

27-28*
29-30*

31-41

37-40
38-39*

56-60
61-62*
63-64*

What is called the "King Wen sequence" also consists of 32 pairs, but they differ from the pairs in the above list.

The King Wen sequence is the sequence in which the hexagrams in the I Ching text (Yijing; Zhouyi) are arranged from 1 to 64. The order consists of a list of pairs, where the general rule is, that a hexagram is followed by an inverted image of itself. A striking visual example is 23 followed by 24. Other types of "inversions" occur, like 1 followed by 2, 29 followed by 30 etc. The best way to learn more about this particular arrangement as it is numbered from 1 to 64 is to study the appendix, or "wing" called, "Explaining the order of the hexagrams".

In Legge, it falls under Appendix VI. The orderly sequence of the Hexagrams. Here is a small extract :

16-19. Where such complacency is awakened, (he who causes it) is sure to have followers . They who follow another are sure to have services (to perform), and hence Sui is followed by Ku. Ku means (the performance of) services. He who performs such services may afterwards become great, and hence Ku is followed by Lin. Lin means great.

The above is the King Wen sequence. In contrast, I would like to add:
The circular arrangement in a natural order of development (binary development), and the grid arrangement ascribed to Fu Hsi, which was included in James Legge's translation. This arrangement was only printed for the first time, according to a source, in the 11th century, as it was popularised by mathematician, Shao Yong (1012 - 1077). It is unely that this sequence was know in the time of Fu Hsi who is said to have lived nearly 5000 years ago. It this very distant time only the eight trigram were in existence.
Here is Legge’s presentation of this binary sequence:

 

[blewbubbles]

Adding to my previous comment, I once wrote out an explanation to myself of the binary progression of the hexagrams, or the "Shao Yong" sequence. I'm pasting it here for the sake of clarity for those who are interested.

The hexagrams in the Shao Yong (1011–1077) sequence follow a binary pattern of development. Starting with the base line and building upwards:


Wuji preceeds Taiji.
Taiji produces Yin and Yang:

◯
☯
⚋ ⚊

Yin produces Old Yin and Young Yang. Yang produces Young Yin and Old Yang:

old yin, young yang, young yin, old yang

老陰 少陽 少陰 老陽
⚏ ⚎ ⚍ ⚌

Old Yin produces K'un and Kên. Young Yang produces K'an and Sun. Young Yin produces Chên and Li. Old Yang produces Tui and Ch'ien:

K'un, Kên, K'an, Sun, Chên, Li, Tui, Ch'ien

坤 震 坎 兌 艮 離 巽 乾
☷ ☶ ☵ ☴ ☳ ☲ ☱ ☰

Each trigram combines with every other trigram, including itself, by adding one on top, to form eight sets of eight hexagrams.

Shao Yong's sequence of hexagrams is produced in this manner, starting with K'un ䷁ and ending with Ch'ien ䷀, forming eight sets of hexagrams, ordered by the base trigram:

䷁ ䷖ ䷇ ䷓ ䷏ ䷢ ䷬ ䷋
䷎ ䷳ ䷦ ䷵ ䷽ ䷷ ䷞ ䷠
䷆ ䷃ ䷜ ䷺ ䷧ ䷿ ䷮ ䷅
䷭ ䷸ ䷯ ䷸ ䷟ ䷱ ䷛ ䷫
䷗ ䷚ ䷂ ䷩ ䷲ ䷔ ䷐ ䷘
䷣ ䷕ ䷾ ䷤ ䷶ ䷝ ䷰ ䷌
䷒ ䷨ ䷻ ䷼ ䷴ ䷥ ䷹ ䷉
䷊ ䷙ ䷄ ䷈ ䷡ ䷍ ䷪ ䷀

When you study the circular arrangement you will find that the hexagram sequence running towards the left of true yang ䷀ are the hexagrams primarily produced by yang (the four groups in the grid from the base upwards, and the hexagram sequence running towards the right of true yang ䷀ are the hexagrams primarily produced by yin (from the fifth row in the grid to the top). The inverse is true when you count from true yin ䷁.

It took me ages to work this out, and yet, it is quite simple. This is what James Legge meant by "a natural order of development". Binary. It the following, well known binary diagram, yin is black, and yang is white. Counting from the bottom up and from left to right, you will be able to read the same order of hexagrams represented in the grid above.

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