Subllima's thread

[julie]

I'm moving this to a new thread for Subllima.

Hello all,
I must admit that I am very much new to this game, but over the past weeks have been intensely reading this message board, and I have posted only once. I am absolutely thrilled by my discovery of the I Ching, unknown to me 6 months ago, and here I am absolutely drawn in. And each day I learn a bit more.
But, it is hard for me to completely understand the answers, as much as I try to do it on my own, it is hard. so here goes a request for help.
Two questions:
1. What does this relationship have in store for us? unchanging 50 (we are not even together, but there is tense, tentative in manoeuverings, that sounds deceptive but it is not, just fear I think)
second question:
2: Do I have the modesty, trust and love of self to see THIS relationship through. (I'm assuming that it is going to happen!!) and I got 53.5,6>15.
Somehow I feel good about this, or is it just because I am ready to trust the universe?

yours with love in my heart

subllima

 

[julie]

Subllima,

These are both beautiful readings. 50 is indeed all about spiritual transformation. It's no guarantee that you'll even get together with him, but that whatever happens in the relationship, it will lead to spiritual transformation.

53 is all about daily tending, the endless flap-flap-flap of the wings of the goose, the turning of the waterwheel to nourish the crops. The lines seem to indicate that you do indeed have the capability for that, though it will take patience. And 15 is also a beautiful hexagram, about working together with another and with the universe as a whole.

So I think you should feel quite encouraged.

Julie

 

[lasublime]

Julie,
Who told you to respond to my question after so many months??!!!! How did you know that it was time for me to hear what you had to say? Since I posted that message I have obsessively asked toooo many questions of the IChing, wound myself up,abused myself, had untold spiritual experiences and grown tremendously. And now here you are pulling me back to that first question about this relationship, pulling me back to the first answer which I had forgotten about!! I have indeed lived through, and am still living through 50 and 53>15. When I got your message in my inbox I was astounded, and when I read your interpretation I almost fell off my seat. I spent an hour pacing and smoking just to get my head round it. I am amazed to see the IChing in action, in retrospect and by someone else reminding me, out of the blue, of that first question/answer. I will try to be succinct.
I asked that question just before 'coming out' with my feelings; that 'coming out' caused a storm of emotional violence, not from me. Not speaking, ignoring me, accusing me of being selfish and offensive. I was shocked. That has blown over (only recently), he being the first to recontact by e-mail, and that is the only way he communicates with me now, all to do with work, which before he was refusing to do if it involved me.
But the amazing thing about your response is that recently, about three weeks ago I wrote a song titled "Without Wings" (dreams without wings). I thought I was writing it for my mother (who is dead), but I now realise it is for me. You mention wings and you also mention a goose.
Two weeks ago I had a dream about 2 geese trapped in a clear plastic balloon, by the sea ('La mer'-the mother with an added 'e' and this is important)surrounded by shrimp inside the balloon with them, lying on their backs unable to fly. In the dream I asked why, and was told that they were ill. I said but it looks as if they are in Pain. The voice said (it was as if it was a doctor/healer speaking) "Oh, yes they are, but they were very ill and we have been taking care of them" I said can't you let them go? The voice: "No not yet, it is not time, but soon, you see, look.." And I looked and then there was only one goose in the balloon and a lot fewer shrimp surrounding the goose(as if the shrimp were medecine).
A few days after writng the song I went to see my spiritual healer (she deals with past lives, energy blockages...), and as is often the case I saw visions when I was there with her. Two women making love, another century clearly, a man outside the door, listening (I felt he was the husband of one of the women, and he was angry). Then from the bed rose an angel, a woman, all in white, with VERY visible WINGS.
(The reason 'La mer' is important is because I have had bad experiences with my dead mother recently in the form of attacks, not the attack of a mother against her child,-I know how it feels when your mother whacks you for stealing the cookies- this was a violent, vicious, inexplicable,very real for me; but now I understand after the vision I had and many things that have happened recently with me now seem clearer. Yes I do believe in past lives, I have had clear indications that even this rational being cannot deny. And another aside, how do I explain the voice that said to me, after I had been doing my 'I forgive' chantings, with specificaly X in mind, a voice, his voice, my would be love, clearly said "Now you speak of forgiveness, you didn't talk about forgiveness when the shoe was on the other foot!" and the voice was X's)
A few days ago a friend sent me a message that her nephew had sent her, about a vision he had the morning of the lunar eclpse earlier this week. The message mentioned 'ANGELS WITHOUT WINGS' Of course by this time my head was spinning, wings and geese, and then your message this morning!!!!!!
And now you send me the beautiful answer the IChing gave me, that I had forgotten about, ignored, and yes I can truly say (I am a witness as they say) to the beauty, majesty and accuracy of the Ching,in retrospect!!
Will we ever get together, you're right there is no guarantee, but I have a feeling that he too is going through some kind of transformation, where it will lead I don't know, but thank you for reminding me to trust the universe when it speaks to me.
Sorry for the length of this, but I did cut it down, there is so much more that has happened since that september posting, I have only talked about 25 per cent of it, just enough to give you an idea.
Peace and blessings
Sublima

 

[julie]

When I posted my response, I didn't realize how old the post was. I don't even remember now how I got to it. In any case, I'm glad to hear that it meant something to you. It sounds like you are really on the journey.

Best of luck to you.

Julie