the list for the maiden 64<54

[dragona]

:bows: Greetings, I know you will do wonders with this reading, I am too close to home with this one anyway....
What am i doing wrong (in my life, to engage in more happier, fulfilling reality for me)? 64<54, first and last lines changing!
Having that feeling again, Yi is talking about something specific maybe...but 54 feels quite adequate, I am in a position of a small influence and things seem/are out of my control.
It is not over yet, work to be done, seems Yi is saying - I got burned and humiliated, but there is certainly nothing to gloat over here on the bottom as the line 6 is speaking of a moderate feast ... suffice to say I have gained nothing but problems, weight, weakened nerves and disappointments over the last few years, just gotten an short term job lately.
Does not look like the list to me....I need a list

 

[gene]

dragona

I don't think you are being specific enough with this. It is hard to understand what you are asking.

That being said, line one indicates that you may be pushing the envelope too far before the time is appropriate. It says "the time for achievement has not yet arrived. You cannot force issues before the time is ripe. In line six it is said, "But one must be careful in all this to keep within proper bounds." Again it sounds like you are pushing the envelope when the time is not ripe to do so. You have to relax and let life happen, enjoying the time along the way and not demanding immediate satisfaction.

I hope this makes sense.

Gene

 

[ragini]

:bows: Greetings, I know you will do wonders with this reading, I am too close to home with this one anyway....
What am i doing wrong (in my life, to engage in more happier, fulfilling reality for me)? 64<54, first and last lines changing!
Having that feeling again, Yi is talking about something specific maybe...but 54 feels quite adequate, I am in a position of a small influence and things seem/are out of my control.
It is not over yet, work to be done, seems Yi is saying - I got burned and humiliated, but there is certainly nothing to gloat over here on the bottom as the line 6 is speaking of a moderate feast ... suffice to say I have gained nothing but problems, weight, weakened nerves and disappointments over the last few years, just gotten an short term job lately.
Does not look like the list to me....I need a list

Hi Dragona, Could it be that a position of small influence is something you chose for yourself before incarnating ? Small influence is not necessarily bad. I see it as a smaller playground to play within, which can be both good or bad. Depends on how we see it. It can be very customized, personal, and non intrusive,and also safe.

While searching for meanings of Hex 54, I found references to "affection", and "kindness of nature". If I think about it, those who exercise these two as primary qualities, would perhaps have a smaller playground, and maybe that is the way it should be ? So that the recipients of your affection and kindness can receive it one on one ?

The backdrop which is Hex 64, suggests a situation which has the potential for turning into spring, but is at the moment weak and young. So it must be nurtured, and cared for in a safe environment. I think the safety seems to be an important message here. Care for yourself in a way that keeps you safe from harm - maybe harm from others, etc. Perhaps suggesting exercise for your weight , meditation for weakened nerves, and building yourself step by step ?

I am honestly a novice in reading the Yi, but these are the images that came to my mind as I was reading your post.

 

[dragona]

dragona

I don't think you are being specific enough with this. It is hard to understand what you are asking.

That being said, line one indicates that you may be pushing the envelope too far before the time is appropriate. It says "the time for achievement has not yet arrived. You cannot force issues before the time is ripe. In line six it is said, "But one must be careful in all this to keep within proper bounds." Again it sounds like you are pushing the envelope when the time is not ripe to do so. You have to relax and let life happen, enjoying the time along the way and not demanding immediate satisfaction.

I hope this makes sense.

Gene

Sure you make sense, thank you...I too often think people can read my mind as Yi can.
I want to know what I am doing wrong in my approach towards life, mostly in relation to everyday life and as I am not happy, something I must be doing wrong. I was thinking I will be told to change my approach from A to B and what steps to take maybe.
I am getting impatient, yes. "I am too old for this ****" feeling is present.
And also feels like I am told of my past "mistake" since gotten 49 a lot lately, 49.3

 

[dragona]

While searching for meanings of Hex 54, I found references to "affection", and "kindness of nature". If I think about it, those who exercise these two as primary qualities, would perhaps have a smaller playground, and maybe that is the way it should be ? So that the recipients of your affection and kindness can receive it one on one ?

The backdrop which is Hex 64, suggests a situation which has the potential for turning into spring, but is at the moment weak and young. So it must be nurtured, and cared for in a safe environment. I think the safety seems to be an important message here. Care for yourself in a way that keeps you safe from harm - maybe harm from others, etc. Perhaps suggesting exercise for your weight , meditation for weakened nerves, and building yourself step by step ?
This is certainly kind way to look at hex 54 and I believe people do perceive me as a kind natured woman. And I do want to have my own playground - I don`t care of the size of it, its the happiness within that matters.

 

[ragini]

This is certainly kind way to look at hex 54 and I believe people do perceive me as a kind natured woman. And I do want to have my own playground - I don`t care of the size of it, its the happiness within that matters.

Hi dragona, I can't tell you how similar I feel about my own situation at the moment. I too like to think of myself as kind, and I believe others will agree. However, the amount of suffering my kindness has caused for me is stupendous.

There are things I want to do, but I feel like I am totally walled in. Everything I do falls falt in the face... trust me, every single thing.

I know what changes I need to make to get things back on track, but making those changes does not seem right. Like I would be messing up the plan god has for me, by making a conscious effort to change. I have been thinking about this a lot. Because it does not make sense, isn't it ? I need to make some changes, I know what they are, and yet I am not getting the signal to actually make them. I am however getting the signal to make a few other changes.

I too have been feeling a sense of urgency recently. I am not getting any younger. If things don't change now, when will they, and will it even matter if things do change after a few years ? Somehow that got me thinking "what does matter?"

Could the Yi be telling you that the time for making changes is not yet ripe ? Could it be saying "just take the time and nourish yourself, and you will be fine". Could it be that the thought,s this difficulty in your life is provoking in your mind, are critical to your spiritual progress ?

Not sure if all this has helped you in any way, but I do hope it does. Maybe you have chosen to work a lot of your karma in this life ?

I am most certain that you will find true joy in this very life ..

 

[dragona]

I know what changes I need to make to get things back on track, but making those changes does not seem right. Like I would be messing up the plan god has for me, by making a conscious effort to change. I have been thinking about this a lot. Because it does not make sense, isn't it ? I need to make some changes, I know what they are, and yet I am not getting the signal to actually make them. I am however getting the signal to make a few other changes.
......
Could the Yi be telling you that the time for making changes is not yet ripe ? Could it be saying "just take the time and nourish yourself, and you will be fine". Could it be that the thought,s this difficulty in your life is provoking in your mind, are critical to your spiritual progress ?

Hm, I feel I am constantly going back and forth, one lousy job that enslaves me and sucks my energy out, then fired, broke and miserable, then another job with all the hoops to go through again (plus additional problems pilling up)...and its endless circle. SO, yes, I feel that something radical would be good - people do get those lucky breaks, they marry, get a job finally, things that allow and ask for a new start.
Other than Gene suggested, not to jump ahead - with conclusions, would be in my case, I don`t get anything much from this reading (even tho 64.6 would suggest to me that there would be something to be happy about, keeping my head cool) and since gotten the lines recently for some other issue, feels it is about something else maybe...as I did push the envelope once before and it made me realize how in constant struggle I actually am, even when it needn˙t be the case.
I think Yi is telling me to be patient lately on everything and I am sick and tired of old things dragging around me and in my mind.

 

[ragini]

Hm, I feel I am constantly going back and forth, one lousy job that enslaves me and sucks my energy out, then fired, broke and miserable, then another job with all the hoops to go through again (plus additional problems pilling up)...and its endless circle. SO, yes, I feel that something radical would be good - people do get those lucky breaks, they marry, get a job finally, things that allow and ask for a new start.
Other than Gene suggested, not to jump ahead - with conclusions, would be in my case, I don`t get anything much from this reading (even tho 64.6 would suggest to me that there would be something to be happy about, keeping my head cool) and since gotten the lines recently for some other issue, feels it is about something else maybe...as I did push the envelope once before and it made me realize how in constant struggle I actually am, even when it needn˙t be the case.
I think Yi is telling me to be patient lately on everything and I am sick and tired of old things dragging around me and in my mind.

dragona I can certainly feel your plight. I was reading some threads on clarity which suggest that when we draw lines 1 and 6 as changing, it might mean that we have to experience the entire hexagram. Waiting is definitely suggested in 64, so is not taking premature action, and so is success and drinking wine

In the past few days while dealing with my own problems of waiting, doing, failing and the same cycle being repeated over and over again, a strange thought came to my mind. At this point even of I did get success, will it really matter ? That too is going to pass. So what is it that really does matter ? Not the lucky breaks, and the successes. As I say this I in no means want to undermine the importance of lucky breaks, and successes. Just sharing my own thought process as it applies to my situations. Lucky breaks are important, because they are like balm to a soul. But just by themselves they do not serve much purpose in the spiritual evolution of a soul.

Success does not seem to be all that important, and failure seems to be miserable What is left ? I then heard a very interesting podcast from the budhist geeks, where the speaker talks about stillness and not having self referential thoughts. Maybe this is what is left ? Stillness and the beauty of just being one with the universe ?

 

[dragona]

Needing balance in life. Balance in successes and failures and KNOWING how to balance things out for myself without needless desires imposed by the world of others, damn. I want that back even tho Buddhists would not care for this desire part but I wondered off my path in that sense so I would go for the balance, you know. And since my side of the scale is low, desire and impatience and all sorts of unwise reactions surprised myself. So many perks in being a human.

 

[dragona]

dragona I can certainly feel your plight. I was reading some threads on clarity which suggest that when we draw lines 1 and 6 as changing, it might mean that we have to experience the entire hexagram. Waiting is definitely suggested in 64, so is not taking premature action, and so is success and drinking wine

I think it was Trojan who made an observation on getting lines 1 and 6 would suggest quick passing within the given hex`s situation.
But you made me think about the meaning of the hexagram 64... and in general, I don`t think it is about waiting alone but it is about careful and smart steps taking towards goal ahead.
I would get enthusiastic about new people, things, projects in my life before - "Fresh is promising, fresh is good "and my mind would elevate with the promise of it...but getting burned with open hearted rushing in takes its toil. Maybe I am just being told to be moderate in all things, not for an strict goal alone.

 

[ragini]

I think it was Trojan who made an observation on getting lines 1 and 6 would suggest quick passing within the given hex`s situation.
But you made me think about the meaning of the hexagram 64... and in general, I don`t think it is about waiting alone but it is about careful and smart steps taking towards goal ahead.
I would get enthusiastic about new people, things, projects in my life before - "Fresh is promising, fresh is good "and my mind would elevate with the promise of it...but getting burned with open hearted rushing in takes its toil. Maybe I am just being told to be moderate in all things, not for an strict goal alone.

Yes, I do did come across a reference to changing line 1 and 6 to mean the situation would pass quickly.

I too too have experienced the enthusiasm thing, and the resulting toll. What I am examining within myself is the possibility that my enthusiasm might be setting unrealistic expectations from people, where I expect them to approach me with the same enthusiasm. What I am realizing is that taking a more calm and measured approach might be better fro my own sanity and it also may be something which people normally expect (which might put them also in a more comfortable position). Not sure if this applies to you also... just sharing what's been going on in my own mind.