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It's a big question so a little bit more background might help us see where you are in the situation and interpret more effectively.I have been asking the itching how best to approach my situation. I am married with a small child and contemplating leaving due to unhappiness.
It appears it is indeed a good time to put your plans into action and to leave. You can see that, regrets vanish, there's confidence in making a change.'Regrets vanish, there is truth and confidence.
Changing mandate, good fortune.'
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If people can't see the change lines, and personally I can't often figure them out without a paper and pen to hand, it's a bit more work so they may not bother...So here getting pen and paper I figure you cast 49.4>63, that's the usual format to tell us the cast. You don't have to paste in the whole of the translation though having the line translation helps
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It's a big question so a little bit more background might help us see where you are in the situation and interpret more effectively.
At a glance this looks to me like a revolution well underway already. 63 can be a decision made
It appears it is indeed a good time to put your plans into action and to leave. You can see that, regrets vanish, there's confidence in making a change.
But I don't know if you are confident, or if you have anywhere to go or if it is at all responsible for me to just tell you 'yes leave'. I know you aren't just going to go ahead and do what an online helper says here but still I have some reservations about being so definite when this could be a precarious situation. I mean the line is pretty definite clear and confident, there isn't the need for doubt here it looks like you could go ahead and make these changes with success. How do you feel about getting such a clear answer on this ? Do you have a clear plan to follow now or can you make one ?
You misunderstand. I know you copied and pasted the entire translation and I said you don't need to do that but you do need to write the cast clearly and say a little more about the situation itself, which you now have done.I've put everything in the thread if you read down I've copied and pastes the whole thread - changing line number 4
I see. Yi aside I'd say you won't feel romantic connection, as in the first throes of love, to anyone you live with and share a life with because the romantic stuff is the beginning of the relationship, I think that's what it's for, to get things going. But familiarity, responsibility, chores and all that kind of thing naturally supercede the romantic stuff. That's not to say there can be no romance at all in a long term relationship but it can take a back seat and afterall it would be a bit weird if every time your partner entered the kitchen your heart started pounding and your mouth went dryThe situation is Ive wanted to leave for a long time but scared due to having a son, being financially dependent on him and also the fact that he is just a lovely man. A good father and provider my reasons for wanting to leave are just that I no longer feel a romantic connection or compatibility.
I already answered you hereThe question I asked the iching was which is the best way to approach my relationship with regards to making my decision as I was going to give a period of time to see if how I feel changes but I've felt this way for about 5 years. Thank you
It appears it is indeed a good time to put your plans into action and to leave. You can see that, regrets vanish, there's confidence in making a change.
But I don't know if you are confident, or if you have anywhere to go or if it is at all responSsible for me to just tell you 'yes leave'. I know you aren't just going to go ahead and do what an online helper says here but still I have some reservations about being so definite when this could be a precarious situation. I mean the line is pretty definite clear and confident, there isn't the need for doubt here it looks like you could go ahead and make these changes with success. How do you feel about getting such a clear answer on this ? Do you have a clear plan to follow now or can you make one ?
Thank you very much for your input.You misunderstand. I know you copied and pasted the entire translation and I said you don't need to do that but you do need to write the cast clearly and say a little more about the situation itself, which you now have done.
I see. Yi aside I'd say you won't feel romantic connection, as in the first throes of love, to anyone you live with and share a life with because the romantic stuff is the beginning of the relationship, I think that's what it's for, to get things going. But familiarity, responsibility, chores and all that kind of thing naturally supercede the romantic stuff. That's not to say there can be no romance at all in a long term relationship but it can take a back seat and afterall it would be a bit weird if every time your partner entered the kitchen your heart started pounding and your mouth went dry
I already answered you here
So yes if it's time to make a complete change now is the time. I asked you the bolded question. You have had a clear answer so now you have to decide how to implement that which I guess initially mainly revolves around getting enough money to live independently.
Or you could apply the 49.4 to the current relationship I guess which I personally would imagine would be far preferable but that's just how it looks to me as an outsider. That is you stand to lose a great deal just for the sake of romance which is a flimsy thing that is here one minute gone the next and hasn't got a fat lot to do with actual love IMO. But I think as you want to leave, you want to make a radical change, and you cast the hexagram of Radical Change and a line that shows you ready to go then it would be time to start making plans as to how to live by yourself.
May I ask for clarification on what applying the hexagram to the current relationship and not leaving would look like? As in how does the interpretation of the chart change in that case? Thank youYou misunderstand. I know you copied and pasted the entire translation and I said you don't need to do that but you do need to write the cast clearly and say a little more about the situation itself, which you now have done.
I see. Yi aside I'd say you won't feel romantic connection, as in the first throes of love, to anyone you live with and share a life with because the romantic stuff is the beginning of the relationship, I think that's what it's for, to get things going. But familiarity, responsibility, chores and all that kind of thing naturally supercede the romantic stuff. That's not to say there can be no romance at all in a long term relationship but it can take a back seat and afterall it would be a bit weird if every time your partner entered the kitchen your heart started pounding and your mouth went dry
I already answered you here
So yes if it's time to make a complete change now is the time. I asked you the bolded question. You have had a clear answer so now you have to decide how to implement that which I guess initially mainly revolves around getting enough money to live independently.
Or you could apply the 49.4 to the current relationship I guess which I personally would imagine would be far preferable but that's just how it looks to me as an outsider. That is you stand to lose a great deal just for the sake of romance which is a flimsy thing that is here one minute gone the next and hasn't got a fat lot to do with actual love IMO. But I think as you want to leave, you want to make a radical change, and you cast the hexagram of Radical Change and a line that shows you ready to go then it would be time to start making plans as to how to live by yourself.
Just putting the question there to keep it in mind, so it's the best way to approach making a decision as to whether to go or stayThe question I asked the iching was which is the best way to approach my relationship with regards to making my decision as I was going to give a period of time to see if how I feel changes but I've felt this way for about 5 years. Thank you
For sure change is good, change is happening in fact I wonder if the decision is almost being made for you in that things are already changing or on the brink of change with him?'Regrets vanish, there is truth and confidence.
Changing mandate, good fortune.'
To answer that I need to go back to what you said hereMay I ask for clarification on what applying the hexagram to the current relationship and not leaving would look like? As in how does the interpretation of the chart change in that case? Thank you
May I ask if there is someone else in the picture? It's just often a third party stimulates the desire to leave what the person sees as the rather dull prospect at home. Anyway applying 49.4 to the current relationship would mean it, the marriage, has an overhaul, you change the way it's done, things change between you and so you become more engaged in making it work. He does sound like he has a lot going for him, you say he's a lovely man and a good father and these qualities aren't so easy to find out there in the world IMO.The situation is Ive wanted to leave for a long time but scared due to having a son, being financially dependent on him and also the fact that he is just a lovely man. A good father and provider my reasons for wanting to leave are just that I no longer feel a romantic connection or compatibility.
Thoughts that may not apply to your particular circumstances; if he is financially supporting you presumably he goes out to work so that could be the reason he wants to stay home? You say you are 'trying to keep us having a life of sorts' but if he is providing the money he also is trying keep you all having a life isn't he? If you rely on him for money not sure how that puts you 'in my masculine' since if you had to go out and earn money you'd be more 'in your masculine' wouldn't yo?. The lack of sex isn't unusual with a young child etc etc, it does happen a great deal you could see a marriage counsellor maybe. There are options open to radical change that don't mean leaving perhaps? Options to radically change the basis of the marriage as it is?Yes this is what has made it hard to leave. We have a son and I've never known if leaving because I'm bored and not satisfied is a good enough reason. He is a good husband and father but we haven't had sex in a very long time and are differ3nt people. I want tk experience a lot in life and he is happy to never leave the house again which means I am constantly in my masculine trying to keep us having a life of sorts. But its a tough decision to make
I had an affair 6 years ago. Right after we got married. Before we had our son. I only told him about it a year ago. He took responsibility where it was due for it understanding why it happened but hasn't made any changes to improve our relationship.Just putting the question there to keep it in mind, so it's the best way to approach making a decision as to whether to go or stay
For sure change is good, change is happening in fact I wonder if the decision is almost being made for you in that things are already changing or on the brink of change with him?
To answer that I need to go back to what you said here
May I ask if there is someone else in the picture? It's just often a third party stimulates the desire to leave what the person sees as the rather dull prospect at home. Anyway applying 49.4 to the current relationship would mean it, the marriage, has an overhaul, you change the way it's done, things change between you and so you become more engaged in making it work. He does sound like he has a lot going for him, you say he's a lovely man and a good father and these qualities aren't so easy to find out there in the world IMO.
There are other changes you could make to change the dynamic of the marriage without leaving it altogether maybe. Like you could find work so you have your own money and feel less dependent. Then maybe you could go out more by yourself if he wants to stay home.
Thoughts that may not apply to your particular circumstances; if he is financially supporting you presumably he goes out to work so that could be the reason he wants to stay home? You say you are 'trying to keep us having a life of sorts' but if he is providing the money he also is trying keep you all having a life isn't he? If you rely on him for money not sure how that puts you 'in my masculine' since if you had to go out and earn money you'd be more 'in your masculine' wouldn't yo?. The lack of sex isn't unusual with a young child etc etc, it does happen a great deal you could see a marriage counsellor maybe. There are options open to radical change that don't mean leaving perhaps? Options to radically change the basis of the marriage as it is?
This is a very fortunate line it asks you to be positive and confident of your timing in moving forward in your approach to resolving this unhappiness. Something is changing and whether that is you leaving altogether or seeking to alter the fundamentals of the marriage I don't know. I do know financial dependence, (often unavoidable so no judgment there) is a real killer for relationships, it just seems to impact negatively even with the best of intentions.
Maybe you'd be better to start to to build up changes while you are still with him so if you want to leave later on you are in a better position to do so. You haven't said if he's happy for you to go or he really doesn't want you to go. I imagine he'd rather have the child living with him all the time rather than share which is what you will have to do if you leave. If you build your own base up to a stronger position where you are in less actual need of him perhaps at least then being more free to go you will know if you truly do want to go.
That must have been pretty devastating for him. Kayleigh it's really hard to be on your side I'll be honest, not that it's case of sides I know but at this point I give up. I'm no marriage counsellor but if you get married it means something doesn't it otherwise what is the point? I can't see how he is responsible for you having an affair just after you married. Of course I don't know anything about it but you've lied to him for 6 years..... I mean surely this confession has significantly damaged any trust there ever was.I had an affair 6 years ago. Right after we got married. Before we had our son. I only told him about it a year ago. He took responsibility where it was due for it understanding why it happened but hasn't made any changes to improve our relationship.
You are right you don't know anything about it, but you asked about third parties and I was honest. But yes, if you are not able to be impartial and keep your comments strictly to the Iching in question instead of your judgements then yes its best to give up.That must have been pretty devastating for him. Kayleigh it's really hard to be on your side I'll be honest, not that it's case of sides I know but at this point I give up. I'm no marriage counsellor but if you get married it means something doesn't it otherwise what is the point? I can't see how he is responsible for you having an affair just after you married. Of course I don't know anything about it but you've lied to him for 6 years..... I mean surely this confession has significantly damaged any trust there ever was.
I give up.
I think this is important information that puts H49.4 <>H63 in a total new perspective.I had an affair 6 years ago. Right after we got married. Before we had our son. I only told him about it a year ago. He took responsibility where it was due for it understanding why it happened but hasn't made any changes to improve our relationship.
Thank you, if you have any further comments to make re the inner resolution I would love to hear them if you are open to sharing. It sounds like this is more about me needing to follow his leadershipI think this is important information that puts H49.4 <>H63 in a total new perspective.
The top trigram Lake changes to Water due to the moving line at the 4th position. Wind out of balance is about delusion and losing touch with the here-and-now.It wants to take charge when it should be following. Taking action now would have disastrous consequences because one does not oversee the consequences. The change to Water shows that one has to go with the flow of events and accept the situation as it is.
As I see it, H49 is not about an outer revolution but an inner one.
H63 is about balance. The Image text says: "Thus the superior person Contemplates difficulties And guards against them in advance."
So it is about an inner change to bring back balance.
Personally, I don't think the Yi is saying you should leave your husband.
This would be my interpretation.Take what resonates and leave the rest
No this is not about following someone, but following the situation. E.g. what does the situation between the two of you need.It sounds like this is more about me needing to follow his leadership
The inner revolution is about the emotions (Water) of both of you (Lake). There must be an exchange of the true emotions, they must be allowed to flow again (Water).if you have any further comments to make re the inner resolution
Thank youNo this is not about following someone, but following the situation. E.g. what does the situation between the two of you need.
H49 is about shedding the old so that the new becomes visible. What needs to be shed in your situation so that the new can emerge?
What is remarkable is that in both H49 and H63, the trigram Fire remains unchanged. Fire represents passion and relationships. So in this way, the answer also seems to indirectly say that the basis for moving forward with each other is still there.
The inner revolution is about the emotions (Water) of both of you (Lake). There must be an exchange of the true emotions, they must be allowed to flow again (Water).
This starts with opening up the current situation (Lake) and acknowledging together that something is not right about the current situation (Fire- making things clear).
The most "simple" revolution would be to make the choice to regain balance in your relationship. The text of the 4th line says "Regrets vanish.There is confidence.Changing the order of government brings good fortune."
As always take what resonates and leave the rest
Thank you, we had a chat yesterday and my husband is looking into courses to help our intimacy so will see how we get onHello Kayleigh,
First of all if something is off in your marriage you should seek professional help. Your needs aren't met and this should be recognized.
That said, 49.4 is about changing a mandate, and it is hexagram 49: seasonal change. More often than not it doesn't come immediately and needs time to evolve and conclude. I can't say for sure in what direction you should change your mind and what you should end (63). However I can suggest starting a process that paves the way for decision making,
Also, the Oracle says something similar (the part in bold):The Image text says: "Thus the superior person Contemplates difficulties And guards against them in advance."
If I understand that, you asked about your relationship and not about leaving. You did not, for instance, ask, "What if I leave?"The question I asked the iching was which is the best way to approach my relationship with regards to making my decision
Thanks for mentioning this, Hans. We do have a 'one username per person' rule here, to avoid confusion, so I've contacted Kayleigh to ask her to choose one.Do you use 2 different screennames? Are Kayleighcakes22 and Toodles34 one and the same person?
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