Troubled heart seeing answers but not clearly. Need help!

[calumet]

You don't sound unintelligent or naive--just troubled and anxious. Welcome to the club.

I read somewhere (probably here) that the Yi is most useful to those in the fifth decade of life and older, and I certainly can see the reasoning behind that assertion. The Yi is kind of like Hoyle's Rules of Games for human psychology. How would you know how to interpret, much less apply, some idiotically arcane rule for bidding a 3 No Trump hand unless you'd seen hundreds or thousands of bridge hands played? Can you factor in the skill or ineptitude of those you are playing with/against? And what about pure, stupid luck? How do you plan for that?

It is my view, doubtless derided (if at all considered) by many people far more knowledgeable than I, that the Yi serves best as a guide or rule book for those who already have a good understanding of human behavior. What do you know about yourself and your beloved that you can relate to your readings? I don't have the capacity to interpret hexes for others, but I can tell you that in my experience, 54 is a mixed blessing (or a mixed curse, if you are a glass-half-empty type). Could that apply in your case?

 

[seeker]

Well, I can sympathize more than you can know as I am in a similar situation. It's very hard, after several months he is still the first thing I think of when I wake up and the last thing I think of before I fall asleep.

As for you readings, I think you need to look at your answers in relation to the specific question you asked. For hex 13 you asked about their relationship. If Yi answered directly, not always, but in this case I think it did, I would say this indicates some rocky times for them but that they may lean on each other during those times. Wilhelms translation for line 6 indicates loss of fellowship with others but maintaining fellowship with the one you dwell with.

I think the moving lines in 54 are telling you that you will always care for him and be loyal to him, but there will probably not be much in the way of a relationship with him. But this is just my interpretation, and this is the book of changes, so who knows.

I would suggest that you try looking at more than one translation. There are several Wilhelm translations online, if you just do a search you can find them. There are also a couple of good ones in the links section for this site. We can try to help, but only you can truly interpret your answer, as only you know all the ins and outs. Sometimes there are nuances in the situation that we may be unaware of that change the reading entirely. Good luck, and feel free to ask if you need more help.

 

[learner]

Dear Anonymous

Here it comes some ideas that I hope could help you out.
You asked about she and her current partner. Hex 13 sixth moving line describes a fellowship without warmth. It does not seem to me a relationship based on love. Since you posed the question about two other people I tend to believe that the answer is not related to you.
As to the reason why your ex left you the first thing that strikes me is that one person was giving much more than the other, which might have caused some harm. The fourth line also talks about ?decreasing faults?. If some mistakes have been made there is still time to correct them.
Hex 44 first line does not seem to me any indication that friendship would work after the break up.
Finally, Hex 54, as you know, is not exactly the best hexagram when it comes to marriage. Basically, it depicts a situation of someone in a secondary position. I think that both lines are addressed to you. The disappointment because you do not know exactly what happened and the fact that you still have feelings for her and hopeful that you could be together again. The lines might not sound encouraging at all in terms of a positive outcome but it could only represent a new beginning in a position that would not be as important (or secure) as the one you had before breaking up.

I do hope that it does make sense to you.

All the best,
Mirian

 

[jte]

"I'm a novice to the world of I Ching, but have so far been amazed by its powers. It's as if it knows every little detail about a situation..."

Welcome to the wonderful world of Yi. A piece of advice for you and the other lovelorn types out there (you know who you are ;-) ) - check out line 8.1 and think about it for a while. Remember, though, that "good fortune" isn't always what you hoped for or were expecting. However, it's still good...

- Jeff

 

[yly2pg1]

Hi Seeker,

Few months ago when I first came to know this site, (if i can recall correctly)
your "frequent" readings on Hex5 is the first that I have read. I guess you have to spend some time to "embrace" the Hex5. Is it still relevent in your life till now?

I used to be trapped in this situation. (This is how i started Yi, though i have known Yi years earlier).The passion is intense and irresistable at times. In this kind of scenario, Yi provide us a kind of perspective to look at things, and perhaps throw some light to think and ponder. It does not have to be painful when the readings sounds bad,if you know the proper way to "embrace" it.

For example, Hex5 teaches us the wisdom of "waiting". Today, Hex5 makes me a more temperance and calm person myself; willing to wait for the right time to act; able to stay cool when things get rough; knowing the way out when the time has come. I have developed a kind of patience to develop some space at heart to wait for inner guidance.


By the way,some Yi wisdoms on 54.1.2:

Softly,look at things from an independent perspective.
Good to stay hidden ...
and you will know the answer you seek if you stay on that.


If i get 54.1.2, I would probably "leave a clue to myself" (when I feel comfortable)
on how I would carry myself during this time.
When I am sure I have got the message and question clear enough, consult Yi for guidance.
Do it slowly.
Tao is "effortless".

 

[seeker]

Hex 5 has come and gone for me, though I feel like I am still there. I thought I had the right time to act and did, but I either misread it or maybe that was just the best that could happen in the given situation. I am currently puzzling over 17, unchanging in answer to what I should do about Thomas now. I still have hopes that he will come back, probably foolish, but everytime I ask if I should just forget about him I get 32 somewhere in the answer, which I read as persevering. But life goes on, as you say the Tao is effortless, and that is how I am trying to move forward, effortlessly, taking what comes, not manipulating or forcing anything (more advice from YI

)

I'm still working on getting to know 54, as I actually do not receive it that much. With my post to anon here I went with the interpretation I had plus a gut feeling, and a general feel of the situation from his other answers. It's all a continuous learning process, and sometimes in interpreting for someone else, I learn something myself. Though I posted on another thread that this learning process would be easier if everyone would come back and update us on the results.

 

[yly2pg1]

Wisdom of 17 here generally means allowing yourself for guidance.
Useful tips and help could be from your lawyer, your friends, Yi etc.
In any way, be objective as you can. Accept help and guidance.