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What action should I take now in order to get back my stuff? Hexagram 23.2.6

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Hello everybody.
I have an issue that has been hanging down my mind for a while and now I would like to ask you for some advice.
I am not a beginner and usually I come to this forum to get some enlightment when I am stuck in my personal interpretation of the oracle. I believe this is the best source about iching in the internet so far and I appreciate so much your effort in helping people. And now I need help. I feel lost and a bit on despair!
So the issue is the following: my friend helped me to store part of my personal belongings in order to wrap all up and dispatch to my residence. I live abroad now and my things are still in my homecountry. It is not much stuff, but two items ( a drawchest and picture made of wood) are very valuable, antique items, hand carved. Her partner came in his car and carried it to store temporarly in the garage. The agreement was that he had to package it and contact me so that I could get in touch with the courier. This should have been done by the first week of September. But it did not happen. I tried to contact my friend, but I sensed a lack communication. She replied to me the day after, stating that they were busy with the opening of the school and that they thought to make a pallet and send it. I waited other two weeks and nothing. I sent her another message and again she replied to me the day after saying that her partner was very busy at work and that he will do it probably next week. 15 days have passed by and nothing. Yesterday I sent him a message and I mentioned that if he has some issue, my brother (who still lives in the town where I was born )could help him. No reply so far.
I consulted the oracle several times and my hunch was that I was making too much fuss, that the problem lays in the fact that I mistrust them and i had a clouded perceprion of the matter at hand. One of the latest responses was 38.6 at the question of what would happen I should involve my brother in this business. (I ching was saying that this guy is not an enemy I suppose). I feel bad to mistrust them, I cannot believe they want to do this to me, but since they got my stuff I receive only silence and I believe that something odd is going on.
What action should I undertake to take my stuff back? Hexagram 23.2.6.
There is distance but I do not completely get the meaning of the sixth line.
Maybe he was disappointed by my message, he felt my lack of trust, but Holy Goodness Do I have the right to claim my stuff?
What do you think ?
Thank you
 

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You'll get fewer responses here if you don't write the relating hexagram in. So here the reading is 23.2.6>7


What action should I undertake to take my stuff back? Hexagram 23.2.6.

I can relate to your problem as they're leaving you in the dark (the yang change pattern is 4 the yin pattern 49) and so you're naturally going to start being worried.


It's interesting how one these objects is a picture with a frame

. It is not much stuff, but two items ( a drawchest and picture made of wood) are very valuable, antique items, hand carved


23.2 says



'Stripping away the bed by way of its distinction/ frame.
To discard constancy/ the divination: pitfall.'

Also quoting some commentary from Hilary in wikiwing and noting that there's a 4 echo again in that if we change this line alone it goes to 4


Frame, context, framework: here you lose your resting place/ thing to fall back on by losing your sense of clear distinctions; you don't know where you are any more. Line 1 is about what supports/sustains you, and connects with Nourishment. Line 2 is about how things relate; instead of feeling unsupported, you feel disorientated, lost. Again, time to hold to a deeper or older way of knowing/being, not throw that out in a nihilistic panic.

23 zhi Hexagram 4, Not Knowing. You realise you don't know - and you find no teacher or system within which to orientate yourself again. So you're not just in the dark, you're lost: no comforting feeling of making progress, being able to measure where you've got to.


So the above seems to fit the situation well but it does seem to indicate you need to stay calm not to abandon your usual strengths. I don't like the sound of this line at all really.



Yi aside in your shoes I would contact your brother. Too much time has passed and you should have your items back now. I wonder if they think you'll just forget about it, they sound disorganised.



I think 7 as the relating hexagram here indicates you have to act in a measured way against wrongs. I don't think advance in 7 is like open attack, trigrams are water under earth, this is more like a concerted effort or attempt.



23.6 is a pretty final scenario where one stops making gestures or trying to change things on a superficial level but needs to change totally. Maybe once you have these back that relationship with the friends is over. Or maybe line 6 may even suggest you let the stuff go. You've started a whole new life and Yi may be saying you're in a whole other phase don't bother with it. But in your shoes I think I'd want the stuff back or at least want your brother to have the stuff not them.





I can't really offer a clear way forward here. You have 'Stripping Away's Army'. A thought comes to me from that that if this stuff connects to your past life perhaps the universe is telling you to really let go of it all ? It's a possibility though not at all ideal. Is there any chance that having these objects back with you would drag you down a bit ? Do you have negative emotional connections with them as well as positive ? Are these things really part of your new life ?



All that aside it is your property and it's worth money and you feel stripped of it. Maybe getting in touch with your brother is the best thing. It is inconsiderate of these people not to keep you updated and I think it's reasonable to move it along now. Even if you don't get it for a while it's better in the hands of your brother by the sound of it.
 

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Sometimes it helps just to think of what the reading isn't saying. It isn't saying 'do nothing and trust' indeed 23.2 would indicate perhaps their actions aren't helpful and work against you, and there's stripping (23) which worse case scenario is actually theft.

I hope others will give their ideas also as it's not a crystal clear reading.
 

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Thank you Trojina for trying to give a sense to this reading.
I think that my life has changed many times throughout the years, I am not of course the same person as I was back when I lived with my parents. It is curious that my partner too has said that probably this is a sign of the universe that I have to let it go, but before coming to this point, I will engage myself in battles to have my stuff back. No particular bad memory is attached to them and what I did not say before is that there are also many hand-embroidered bed sheets and towels from my grandmother, a gift to me. How can I leave these items, that for me are priceless? I have had a couple of dreams where I cried out that somebody stole my jewels. But I blamed myself, my ego for overreacting and mistrust my friend. May I possibly have overlooked some oracle responses that seemed to me to highlight that I was just projecting some inner shadows to others, or being too impatient? As I wrote before at the question what if I allow my brother to be involved in this matter I had 38.6, i was shooting someone who is my friend instead. At that time I thought it referred to my friend's partner, now I believe that the friend was my brother? What can I add more? I am strangely too calm now as if some good energy from above is soothing my mind. I will give him some few more days, after I will ask my brother to intervene. Thank you again for your help.
 

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Line 23.2 Wilhelm/Baynes: The bed is split at the edge. Those who persevere are destroyed. Misfortune.

Line 23.6 Wilhelm/Baynes: There is a large fruit still uneaten. The superior man receives a carriage. The house of the inferior man is split apart.

There is something important to understand here (a large fruit still uneaten) and I would say that would be the nature of your friendship. Namely, line 23.2 implicates weak boundaries. To me it seems that you behave with your friend like ''you can do whatever you want and I am ok with it, no problem, I’ll adapt, we’ll arrange it how it suits you, I am never mad on you, never mind''…and so on. Now it is the situation which is really important to you but you still behave like mentioned above – you’ll arrange it how it suits them and they (according to learned pattern) think that you won’t mind anyway if they send you that someday in the future and now they have other priorities. So maybe instead losing your time to be mad at them (inferior man) try to put focus on yourself and raise your voice with a clear suggestion not asking to adapt when the other side has time or will to send you your stuff. Hexagram 7 implies exactly that:

Hexagram 7 Wilhelm/Baynes: The Army. The army needs perseverance and a strong man. Good fortune without blame.

You should be the organizer (not asking others what and when would they prefer) and introduce some soldier structure, discipline and strategy in solving this problem

Wish you luck with your stuff :)
 
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23.3 does sound like you shouldn’t wait any longer.
23.6 sounds like you need someone to help who is capable of helping so perhaps before you say anything more to your friends you should first check with your brother to be sure he is up for it.
If he is - and I’m assuming he would act like the boots on the ground Sargent in hexagram 7 and take over the entire responsibility- then you could contact your friends and say, “Turns out my brother says he can take over sending me my stuff. I’ve given him your number so you’ll be hearing from him shortly. Thanks so much for storing it!”
 

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Yana-Rose, Rosada you are both on point. I let events flow and I did not take the entire issue severely because I suppose that if a friend says "sorry, I was very busy, I need some more time. But I will do it" I give them the time and space to manage it. But from them, I receive only silence. It was always me to contact them. Last time I spoke to my friend's partner I put my foot down and said that I need my stuff at the end of October. Two weeks have passed by (almost two months since he transported my stuff into the garage) and yesterday I sent him a message, saying that if he needs help my brother would be glad to help out. No answer.:( I still cannot believe it.
There is a need for some action from my side, I know but I live a thousand kilometers away from them and It is hard to exert any effective action.
Thank you for your support. Apart from my partner nobody knows about my situation and it is good to receive some good advice from people who can see the whole story from a different perspective.
 

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