What does 40.1 releases into 54?

[dragona]

I was going through some shared readings...and I wonder what happens if one gets 40.1 into 54? There was a person who never wrote the outcome of his/hers situation...

40.1 Release..(and nothing else to do, anyway; be causual ) into 54?
And that hexagram, since does not relate to our Western tradition has many wiews, it seams - to many for me to clearly understand what it is that 40 releases its tensions and gets involved (with both hands, grabbing by the horns) into this challenging situation of hex 54?
To me it seams as if one is to surrender or simply is in need to do as hex 40 advises but what is then the reward of 54? It doesn`t seam be very promising...does it speaks of only sexual relationship, being overly eager in the situation, being left "short sleeved"?

Would be good to know... and also to what extent should a person think and rethink all possible meanings because people here really can broode over it -it is really easy to get lost in all possible meanings instead of understanding what it actually referes to?
May it be that hexagrams can relate to us like objects do in our dreams? Our own relation to each one of them?

 

[icastes]

54 is not a reward for taking action in 40, which is a deliverance, both in the spiritual and physical senses. 54 is about physical passion violating conventional mores. 54 is the marriage of the younger sister before the older one; hence, it is a violation of conventional order. Moreover, it is a union of a younger woman with an older man, not based on proper marital standards, but on physical desire, i.e., lust. The problems of 54 are those that can be avoided. The no fault of 40's first moving line, the freedom from worry, doesn't give an individual right to then indulge in what is wrong to do. That leads to failure in practically all parts of one's life. So, in this case, this transition is not so much a necessary prediction of bad fortune as it is a warning as to what will happen if the deliverance from bad fortune is translated into unconventional behavior.

 

[chingching]

I had this exact reading for myself regarding a relationship and I'm afraid I don't have too much insight to share but am eager to see what others have to say.

One thing I will say is that this relationship of mine has been released from obligatory contact that both of us resented, not all the time... but it was there. And it was a tacit agreement and the door is still open but there is no expectation to see or hear from each other and we haven't been in touch for a month. But no hard feelings at all. It was quite freeing.

54 can be the context it doesn't have to be the outcome. I agree about possible meanings, how do you know which one fits???... and I guess that is what makes a great yijing reader (diviner) their intuition and objectivity.

 

[icastes]

I had this exact reading for myself regarding a relationship and I'm afraid I don't have too much insight to share but am eager to see what others have to say.

One thing I will say is that this relationship of mine has been released from obligatory contact that both of us resented, not all the time... but it was there. And it was a tacit agreement and the door is still open but there is no expectation to see or hear from each other and we haven't been in touch for a month. But no hard feelings at all. It was quite freeing.

54 can be the context it doesn't have to be the outcome. I agree about possible meanings, how do you know which one fits???... and I guess that is what makes a great yijing reader (diviner) their intuition and objectivity.

The Yi is a means to tapping into one's intuition. But a certain rationality doesn't hurt. One has to look at the situation in hand, look at the characters, and then compare to the situation and characters in the hexagrams. You have your liberation, let loose. The question now is what is it you are going to do? Are you going to do something that will throw you into inappropriate behavior or avoid it?

 

[dragona]

Thank you for your posts, all 3 of you!
Hm, hm....my q. was how plausable my wishes were concerning a certain liaison (to actually come to life-shall we say - I read you Chinching :-S
"So, in this case, this transition is not so much a necessary prediction of bad fortune as it is a warning as to what will happen if the deliverance from bad fortune is translated into unconventional behavior."
Please define "unconventional behaviour" for this situation - physicall attraction? There was that, yes...banned by the distance, so perhaps that may refere to "violation of conventional order" because normally, it would never even came to life? Or it tells me to moderate my behaviour to that of a first wife-can that even help?

Just asked of what the final outcome from connection with that person would be - 19,unchanged...harvest...that is an fruitfull image but can it be of an lasting kind?

 

[icastes]

The rich harvest is 14, not 19, which is an approach or some kind of prevailing. Bad behavior is selfish and self-centered, full of lust, and so on. 19 is very good, but it may be good because you have the man or even if you don't have the man. 19 insists that you be humble, not arrogant. You must treat others gently and warmly. As such, 19, when it comes to love (not marriage), is that the love affair will go hot and cold--as such you must remain calm and collected. Do you think you can?

 

[dragona]

:bows: Thank you, thank you...you seam to know your I-Ching :bows:
It seams to be a long road if both decide to take it...still in the dark but at least know how to procede...perhaps that 1st line was telling me to relax it a bit...in my mind

This may be interesting...asked: What has changed for him (in trems of how he sees me now-he seams more decent, shall we say)?
Hex 60.1 into 29! For me, 29 means trouble..somewhere it was interpreted as stress...not good, is it?

On the other hand, "In relationship readings, Hexagram 60 is still about setting ground rules: clarifying expectations, making sure you both mean the same thing by the same words, and simply that you understand one another." - Hilary
And hex 29 is about confronting your fears (according Gatto here and I think also about riding the storm with confidence.
Argh.....a bit too much thinking..but what else do I ever do?