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I agree. Overlaying one system upon another can end up weighing down the whole thing. Even too much of a good thing can be too much.This seems to be - big overstepping. Big load!
Hmm. I suppose. For me, without knowing what these writings actually say, it might be premature to say if this is an auspicious sign or a warning that things are too much. Perhaps then, it is suggesting that we should be ready, be prepared, or proceed with caution: that we might need to get out from under the roof beam that's about to break ... or, that we now have some excessive new thing which leads us to 'have somewhere to go.'But this is auspcious. The old beam turned out to be more malleable than anyone would have guessed.
He was asking about 'efforts to insert (the Yi) into a larger structure' which I was responding to. And while the poster didn't ask specifically for my view on this, he did post his reading here, so - again - I responded, which I think is an important aspect of this website - to share ideas.... the poster didn't ask for my view on this kind of cross-pollination in general, he asked the Yijing about a specific book ...
Okay, thanks for that clarification, and I'll consider this idea of the rigdepole being weathered by the elements as possible way for me to look at 28.When I consider the image of a warped beam, I ... suppose it has been weathered by the elements. You suppose it has been compromised due to an excess load. It doesn't say. In this case, I see that the 'bending' which has occurred has been deliberate: "made to fit in these 256 octograms somehow."
I think I get what you're saying here - maybe? But don't all readings involve an 'omission' of all the other thousands of possible readings that they are not?That is not in this reading. But because it is in a very similar reading, I might assume it is a deliberate omission. A third line moving might also suggest a tension that I perceive as less acute in a reading with no moving lines.
Perhaps, but this is a free, open forum, and I don't think that either you or I have gone off into some other readings or hexagrams - we've just explored this one in more detail, which I have benefited from - and maybe QY will as well.I also worry that all this discussion is not helpful to the poster.
Thanks Rosada, I think I was just showing off to the community that I have some knowledge of Ifa, having studied with a Santero in Cuba amongst other experiences. He quite explicitly told me that he didn't like the male prostitutes that were making a living off of the tourists. There's a lot of concern about corruption entering into the sacred rituals as people strive to emulate the United States. I already carry a heavy load, whether it is worth me pursuing it here is another matter. Thank you.Consider that 28.Excess follows 27. Nourishment. To me this suggests that much has been taken in and now the Excess of Nourishment needs to be digested, the lessons need to be learned, before attempting to lead or teach others as described in 29. The Dangerous Abysess. ("If you are unfamiliar with the path, do not attempt to go further without a guide. If you know the way, then lead others. The superior man is untiring in his willingness to teach").
To apply this to the current question, 28. Excess unchanging, says to me the I Ching is cautioning that this new system can only offer more words. The important thing is how do you process them? Do they give more information and make things more clear to you or is it just more confusion?
The Judgement says it pays to have a destination. I think that means it's good to know what your goal is. If you're going to the beach you wouldn't take a suitcase full of clothes and if you're asking the oracle a simple question you don't need a long answer - Know you're goal and you won't take on an Excess.
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