What was the Purpose of Our Reuniting after 33 years Apart?

[amy luisa]

wanting to look more closely at this....i came up with this response....Legge translation

LEFT SIDE

13. T'ung Jên / Fellowship with Men

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______ above Chen
______
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___ __ below Li
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UNION OF MEN / BROTHERHOOD / FRIENDS / BELOVED
T'ung Jên, or Union of Men, appears here as we find it in the remote districts of the country, indicating progress and success. It will be advantageous to cross the great stream. It will be advantageous to maintain the firm and correctness of the superior man.


RIGHT SIDE

35. Chin / Progress

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___ ___ above Li
_______
___ ___
___ ___ below K'un
___ ___


ADVANCE / PROGRESS
In Chin we see a prince who secures the tranquillity of the people presented on that account with numerous horses by the king, and three times in a day received at interviews.


Guys, this is a tough one for me. I am trying to understand this in a way that i can make some sense of our reuniting after so long. I sense that it was a karmic debt to be paid for by me to my friend E.

that was all - and that is cool. we also had alot of number 9's in our relationship, meaning days/dates/events and also meetings that were given 9's. This is a final number to endings....

now, at our age, friendship can begin New. and either way it goes, its nice. we were fortunate to have to go through this again, this lifetime, did not want to end this life without knowing that i hurt my friend so deeply.

can anyone translate this for me please? thank you kindly.
:bows:


OMG -
PLEASE LOOK AT MY CORRECTIONS ON THE SIDES OF THE HEX, I JUST CORRECTED THEM NOW.

 

[willowfox]

13.1,3,5 > 35

Its like the "fellowship of the rings", its a friendship that cannot be broken by neither time nor distance, you were apart physically for 33 years but not mentally, so this coming back together is just a natural conclusion, a closing of the circle.

You both compliment each other, he is the leader and you are the follower, and there will be more meetings to come, as now the purity of the relationship needs to shine afresh as your friendship cannot be stopped.

 

[amy luisa]

Omg!

You know Willow......Verbatem - he said that to me when we were having dinner in Brooklyn last january. We compliment each other....

crazy - huh?

After the 1977 Karmic debt was paid off in 2009, we were done, i believe.
there were many 9's in our relationship last year.

September 22, 2009
Room 309 - 9pm
January 29, 2010

ending of one cycle. The Circle is completed.

to start new beginnings.
we are still close. teacher/student.

thank you willow. this was clear and i appreciate your insight:bows:

 

[amy luisa]

correction on the sides

REMEMBERING THIS READING

LEFT SIDE

FELLOWSHIP


RIGHT SIDE
CHIN/PROGRESS



IS THIS GOING TO BE A DIFFERENT READING THEN?

JUST REMEMBERING THIS THAT I MISPLACED THE HEX SIDES

PLEASE ADVISE IF THIS MAKES A DIFFERENCE?

THANK YOU and I am sorry for the confusion

 

[arabella]

From what I see, you put forward the same casting in both instances, so the outcome is the same as Willow Fox has just read.

Again, Willow Fox has given you the pragmatic answer to your question, why? And she sites the strength of your relationship that overcomes time and geography.

As you asked me to lend a translation as well, I'll just add a few ideas. First of all, to my mind, Hex 13 is about the instincts that unite or repell people. There are various recommendations in the lines, and references to what I would think of as "clans." Clans being an association among people that is slightly more distant than family, but still quite personally connected. And that I believe represents a stage in how society evolved through time. Clans were important within social history just before anybody got the thought of "tribes" as an even safer and more secure way to protect people.

And I would think this person you feel so drawn to is in fact one of your "clan" in the modern day sense of the word. This is somebody you just understand, who understands you. Your experiences, culture, neighborhood, and families unite you in a particular way that, even if it turned ugly, isn't going to be dismantled, because there is so much background connection, beyond even the two of you.

Hex 13 in this way almost cautions us against over-analysis of such a relationship. It just "is." And, if you think about it, the funeral that brought you together was most likely of a fellow "clansman" and these are just the events that perpetuate such a "union with men" as described by the Hexagram.

And I would say, in that, is the enormous power that attracted you, and keeps you attracted each time you meet again, that looks and feels so completely "down home" in the faraway place where you live now, thousands of miles from memories and relationships that were fundamental to growing up. These memories and associations represent principles and securities that, in your need to be understood, you continue to fall back on periodically.

Because the emotions that accompany this type of clan union are so basic and all-pervasive, it's important to behave in a way that gives you a few assurances about the future of this tie, to ensure that you won't jeopardise it. You want to be clear, to remain associated in all the ways you can without compromising the unity of the "clan" -- the greater connection. The lines you drew, one, three and five, each represents one of these behavioral ideas, these important social morays.

Line One talks about a relationship "free from fault" which imparts a clear conscience [a freedom IChing talks about often], the third line might be interpreted to say that you should not presume upon the ties that exist and think they are something else [understand where the power comes from], and the fifth changing line suggests that you should be very clear with each other exactly where things stand and what it's all about.

Again, I think that's where the ultimate power and beauty of this association will lie as indicated by Hexagram 35, the outcome. Don't sell short the ties of family, neighborhood and deep friendship, but don't exaggerate or abuse them either since distorting the relationship will take you places that will destroy the peace of mind this powerful clan connection can bring you in its pure, simple form for years to come.

 

[amy luisa]

Thank you

wow!

thank you so much.

yes, i appreciate this response very much!
But what is very strange, is the emotional and physical attraction we both have with one another, after all these years apart, still there, even now. we say one thing, we do something else. We want to be freinds, but then, it changes like we are "fooling ourselves". its awful!

By Steve's death, he was actually another guy i dated while i dated E, it brought us together on the website itself. When we went back home, we drove through Steve's old neighborhood to say goodbye to him, in actuality, we were supposed to go to the gravesite instead. i will do this by myself when i go back home in september again...but....

that is the "jist" of it. very strange - but Karmic debt, also, played a big part, i guess E's grief and suffering when i left him, was given back again. i was glad. that part had ended.

but even till this day, as we speak, and email and talk, its an attraction, that we wonder...what is going on?

Oh, i need to learn to use this I-Ching more....LOL

very good then.....
namaste and thank you for this. i will send this to him as he wanted to know also.

:bows: