What will the outcome be if I get pregnant? 41uc

[ChangingOne]

My partner and I have just decided to start trying for a baby. I was on a contraceptive injection for a while and recent Ovulation tests have shown that I’m not currently ovulating which is totally normal as I’m still waiting for my periods to return. It would be very unlikely for me to conceive at the moment but I’m expecting my body to be ready by years end.

My partner had trouble conceiving in his previous relationship, there were issues on both sides, he had lower motility and sperm count and I’m unsure what issues his ex partner had but combined it just didn’t work out even after 2 rounds of IVF. Doctors told him that with someone else the situation could be very different.

When I asked the I Ching what the outcome would be if I got pregnant, I actually wasn’t even thinking about it with the above in mind. I had a different reason for asking, more of a “will I have a happy future with my parter and our child” sort of thing. Since receiving 41 though, it’s made me look at this answer quite literally and I’m concerned it’s telling me that if I got pregnant I’d lose the baby. Does anyone else see this in a different way?

 

[IrfanK]

No, I don't see it that way:

Decrease combined with sincerity
Brings about supreme good fortune without blame.
One may be persevering in this.
It furthers one to undertake something.
How is this to be carried out?
One may use two small bowls for the sacrifice.

I don't see anything that would imply a miscarriage. Possibly a need to wait for longer than you'd like, and maybe the need for some kind of intervention, possibly IVF or at least some other fertility treatment. A need to modulate expectations of the kinds of extravagant happiness that people often imagine having a child involves, maybe? A lowering of expectations regarding the fairy tale happily ever after ending? Two small bowls for the sacrifice ... Possibly refers to you and your partner, possibly your respective reproductive capacities? In which case, maybe not the IVF, maybe doing it the old fashioned way will work.

Keep trying!

 

[ChangingOne]

Thanks Irfan, really appreciate your input on this. Looking at it again and thinking about the 2 small sacrifices this all makes sense. Particularly the bit about persevering. I guess it’s not saying it won’t happen it’s just saying I need to be patient with it.

 

[Trojina]

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[Trojina]

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Unlike hexagram 42uc, hexagram 41 uc, Decreasing, in my experience plays out pretty much as expected. That is looking back I haven't spent a whole lot of time puzzling over 41uc answers as far as I can remember. (42uc OTOH is totally baffling). Occasions where I've had 41 uc ; 1. As a...

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When I asked the I Ching what the outcome would be if I got pregnant, I actually wasn’t even thinking about it with the above in mind. I had a different reason for asking, more of a “will I have a happy future with my parter and our child” sort of thing. Since receiving 41 though, it’s made me look at this answer quite literally and I’m concerned it’s telling me that if I got pregnant I’d lose the baby. Does anyone else see this in a different way?

The question here seems too vague to apply the answer to. You knew what you meant when you asked but I don't really.

You asked for a straight prediction really and a forecast for a being who does not yet exist. I don't think the future is already written. I especially don't think Yi is a very daft fortune cookie oracle that would tell you you'd lose a baby you haven't even conceived yet.

In general you can take 41 as advice to chill, to have an attitude of willingness to give things up that you can give up. Huge sacrifices aren't called for only what you can afford so if you came to the question believing you have a great deal to do, that you have to exert effort and really try hard or something to make things work you don't. It's not a time of striving to make things better like 42 but more a time of relinquishment of intent, being prepared to offer up what you have in a low key way. The advice is all extra passions can be reduced whether that's desire or anger, they can all be dialled back at this time. You can keep it simple. Also I think you could take this, as in regard to pregnancy, that this won't take a huge amount of effort to get pregnant perhaps. I can't make predictions on that of course but this answer isn't saying to do more or to to try harder or anything like that.

 

[ChangingOne]

Did you forget about this one, you never went back

4.2>23 relocating

Hi everyone, Things have been going well in my current relationship but we live in different parts of the country. I have wanted to move for years but didn’t have a calling to a particular place and always thought if I did move it would be with someone rather than upping sticks and being on my...

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I actually did! Completely forgot to reply so will do

 

[ChangingOne]

There's a number of 41uc experiences here

Your Experiences with Unchanging Castings - Hexagram 41

Unlike hexagram 42uc, hexagram 41 uc, Decreasing, in my experience plays out pretty much as expected. That is looking back I haven't spent a whole lot of time puzzling over 41uc answers as far as I can remember. (42uc OTOH is totally baffling). Occasions where I've had 41 uc ; 1. As a...

www.onlineclarity.co.uk

The question here seems too vague to apply the answer to. You knew what you meant when you asked but I don't really.

You asked for a straight prediction really and a forecast for a being who does not yet exist. I don't think the future is already written. I especially don't think Yi is a very daft fortune cookie oracle that would tell you you'd lose a baby you haven't even conceived yet.

In general you can take 41 as advice to chill, to have an attitude of willingness to give things up that you can give up. Huge sacrifices aren't called for only what you can afford so if you came to the question believing you have a great deal to do, that you have to exert effort and really try hard or something to make things work you don't. It's not a time of striving to make things better like 42 but more a time of relinquishment of intent, being prepared to offer up what you have in a low key way. The advice is all extra passions can be reduced whether that's desire or anger, they can all be dialled back at this time. You can keep it simple. Also I think you could take this, as in regard to pregnancy, that this won't take a huge amount of effort to get pregnant perhaps. I can't make predictions on that of course but this answer isn't saying to do more or to to try harder or anything like that.

Thanks ever so much for your input here. I agree the question actually is a little vague, I probably should have asked about something more specific. However, it’s good to now that no big sacrifices need to be made. I certainly feel extremely relaxed about the whole process, my partner is rather anxious given his past experiences but for me I just feel very at ease and don’t feel a great deal of pressure. Well, perhaps a little based on the fact I’m getting on a bit…